Machiavellian said:
TH3-D0S3R said:
This is dealing with illegal immigrants, so I understand the zero tolerance approach. Personally I thought the children were better in those conditions then letting them live in the prisons with their parents (something the 9th district court agrees with, which is the most liberal court district). But I can sorta see the outrage so I get it. There has yet to be conclusive evidence to show the children were willfully neglected so my mind may change when we get more results on that.
In summary if these were normal citizens, I'd be outraged, but these are terrible parents who bring their children as a form of protection to try and get in. I feel bad that the kids are seen more as tools in their parents eyes, but illegal immigration IS illegal, and should not be tolerated.
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First you have to understand how this is placed on Trump. He signed an executive order which made all illegal crossing of the border a felony crime instead of a misdemeanor like it use to be. This was a direct result of Trump and Session understanding that it would bring the Floreres act into effect and thus the separation of children from their parents. Also, in the memo that Session sent to the south border, it states that everyone will be detained when entering the US and processed. Those same people who are seeking asylum are also treated the same with their children taken away during this processing period. Both items were direct changes and executive order done by Trump and Session to cause exactly what we have now. The difference is that they thought this would go the same way as the NFL kneeling where Trump came out on Top with his base. Session and Trump thought this would put pressure on the Dems to support his wall which he cannot get full support from his own party (which is the reason he need Dems support).
You even have him actually making dumb tweeter statements that its the Dems policy that this is happening and trying to place ever kind of blame he can on them for his own Political stunt.
Also, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about when it comes to these parents and why they choose to come to the US. If you are going to make a statement like that can you at least back it up with something more than a gut feeling. When someone decides to uproot their family and leave everything they own and know behind to attempt to find something better, I highly doubt they are doing it to bring their children as a form of protection.
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Except for the fact that this has been going on during the Obama administration as well, the only difference being Trump is more consistent about it and doesn't try to sweep it under the rug.
https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2016/07/06/15-56434.pdf
This case basically outlines why the law is the way it is, and it was ruled WELL before Trump was ever president. Trump is in the EXECUTIVE branch, and if you remember anything about basic US Government, the executive branch EXECUTES the law, which according to this case he is doing. I'm no fan of executive orders, so it's on Congress to work this out, and it seems Schumer and the rest of the gang don't give two shits about passing this through unless the illegals get to live here, which should happen in no circumstance. So in a way that is one of his few tweets that is actually true, because if Democrats actually CARED about reuniting children with their families, they would work with Ted Cruz and the Republicans to get something passed.
But guess what, they aren't and they won't, because they are worthless bricks in Congress that do absolutely nothing. You need 60 votes in the Senate for it to pass, and Republicans need 9 Democrats to pull it through. The Republicans have at least showed me they are trying to do something. The Democrats are just sitting their thinking oh we wont do anything because we want Trump to do it. That isn't how power is supposed to work in this country and their blatant incompetence is mind boggling to me.
And also, parents only bring their kids because the media can sell it and it will garner more support. I'm sure life sucks in whatever country they come from, but why not work on change and improve your own homeland? I get things aren't rainbows and sunshine, but nothing is until you do something about it.
But no, most of the time these parents just send these kids on their own in hopes that they sneak in and they can follow suit. I hate that I even have to put it this bluntly, but let's be real. Who is the media more likely to side with, a 4 year old girl whose intentions are pure, or a 25 year old male who doesn't give us any clear motives? The 4 year old girl, 900000000 times out of 10. If these parents TRULY wanted a better life for their kids, they would either come in legally like all great immigrants do or seek refuge and wait until all the proper screening has gone through. Trying to sneak past the border is literally the worst thing to do for your kids, and yet they just do it anyway.
Some laws need to change, but illegal immigration is universal. The impacts couldn't be comprehended until you legalize letting anyone come in with no background checks or screenings.