Starting to believe? Lol

But yes PS/XB primarily fight over the same crowd. We can get a pretty good idea of that based on the fact that the biggest games on each platform tend to be similar (shooters, sports, open world) and the fact that this looks to be the 3rd generation in a row where PS+XB sales are about the same (170-180m).

We can see that Nintendo doesnt fight directly against them based on the fact that their big sellers are not typically in the same franchises or genres and their sales fluctuate while PS+XB remains quite stable. Nintendo's success comes down to how well they are able to appeal to various demographics such as woman, children & families that PS/XB many times neglect.

As for 3rd parties on Nintendo, they can and have been successful, they just arent the typical shooter/sports/open world games that dominate on PS/XB. Indies, Japanese and kid/family 3rd party games have had success on Nintendo.

Didnt he though?Look where we are now.

He misquoted the data. Nintendo's statistics showed that 30% of people spend 80% or more of the time in undocked mode, while 20% spent 80% or more in docked mode. The remaining 50% had smaller differences than a factor of 4, and were clumped together. But that still implies that there are 50% more people that use it primarily as a handheld, than there are people that use it primarily as a home console.

To claim that the part of the market it competes with is only the "hybrid" market is silly. Does it not compete with the PS4 because the PS4 isn't a hybrid? Of course not. The Switch and the PS4 compete... In the same way, you can make observations like how (according to Nintendo's own stats), users use it more as a handheld than a home console.

Are you throwing me under the bus o.P

Hahahahah, I put it that way just to avoid saying I was 100% sure. I would like to see people doing market research to prove this, until then we can just try to guess.

But yes, you're correct. But I think with the GC Nintendo was still fighting for the same crowd, the Wii/DS era was the turning point. The other are rather specialized on the core audience (well, Sony itself was pretty clear in saying that out loud when starting the gen and it worked better than MS shoving Kinect and TV stuff).

So we can say that the only to blame for the Wii U were Ninty itself. It didn't failed because the PS4 beat it, but because Nintendo consumers looked and were not interested at all. The Switch is probably making the Wii crowd upgrade.

I understand 3rd party titles can be successful on Nintendo platforms. But my point is that the life and blood of PS/XB is the 3rd party AAA market. Nintendo appeals to a crowd that is not that dependent on those big titles. I would say that 3rd parties are the icing on Nintendo's first party cake. For Sony/MS, third parties are the whole cake and first party are just the icing.

Glad you agree that they are important and relevant to Sony. 

The argument can be made that they are amazing when you considered every other traditional home console of its generation bombed in Japan. 

I think you should read the posts again because I said it competes with PS4 as a hybrid no hybrid market was even mentioned that's a creation of your own there.

This is the image itself:

Nothing here shows the middle group being more portable focused all it says is that over 50% used it as both in other words its hybrid concept furhter backing the point that it's not seen as either home or portable but as intended a hybrid device that caters to varying gaming habits.

No, that argument cannot be made, doing better than terrible does not make it amazing.

Thats the equivalent of getting a D on a test and saying you did amazing because someone else got an F. Its still a poor result regardless of how well others performed.

Last gen ps3 gets an F in terms of the money it lost Sony. 

This gen in Japan they get an A for profitability. Sony are surely delighted.