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zorg1000 said:

Starting to believe? Lol

But yes PS/XB primarily fight over the same crowd. We can get a pretty good idea of that based on the fact that the biggest games on each platform tend to be similar (shooters, sports, open world) and the fact that this looks to be the 3rd generation in a row where PS+XB sales are about the same (170-180m).

We can see that Nintendo doesnt fight directly against them based on the fact that their big sellers are not typically in the same franchises or genres and their sales fluctuate while PS+XB remains quite stable. Nintendo's success comes down to how well they are able to appeal to various demographics such as woman, children & families that PS/XB many times neglect.

As for 3rd parties on Nintendo, they can and have been successful, they just arent the typical shooter/sports/open world games that dominate on PS/XB. Indies, Japanese and kid/family 3rd party games have had success on Nintendo.

Hahahahah, I put it that way just to avoid saying I was 100% sure. I would like to see people doing market research to prove this, until then we can just try to guess.

But yes, you're correct. But I think with the GC Nintendo was still fighting for the same crowd, the Wii/DS era was the turning point. The other are rather specialized on the core audience (well, Sony itself was pretty clear in saying that out loud when starting the gen and it worked better than MS shoving Kinect and TV stuff).

So we can say that the only to blame for the Wii U were Ninty itself. It didn't failed because the PS4 beat it, but because Nintendo consumers looked and were not interested at all. The Switch is probably making the Wii crowd upgrade.

I understand 3rd party titles can be successful on Nintendo platforms. But my point is that the life and blood of PS/XB is the 3rd party AAA market. Nintendo appeals to a crowd that is not that dependent on those big titles. I would say that 3rd parties are the icing on Nintendo's first party cake. For Sony/MS, third parties are the whole cake and first party are just the icing.