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VGPolyglot said:
monocle_layton said:

The point of my thread isn't over the cost. I was focusing on smaller titles that i hope Nintendo bring soon

Snipperclips.

Most people probably think Snipperclips is a $20 game. Does that make it any worse? Nope.

 

People clearly enjoy smaller titles by Nintendo. The Wii had a lot of solid titles as well. The Switch is a perfect place for these games, especially when it becomes more affordable in the future



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monocle_layton said:
VGPolyglot said:

Snipperclips.

Most people probably think Snipperclips is a $20 game. Does that make it any worse? Nope.

 

People clearly enjoy smaller titles by Nintendo. The Wii had a lot of solid titles as well. The Switch is a perfect place for these games, especially when it becomes more affordable in the future

So then, what are you arguing? We're giving examples of 1st party published Switch games that are under $60.



VGPolyglot said:
monocle_layton said:

Most people probably think Snipperclips is a $20 game. Does that make it any worse? Nope.

 

People clearly enjoy smaller titles by Nintendo. The Wii had a lot of solid titles as well. The Switch is a perfect place for these games, especially when it becomes more affordable in the future

So then, what are you arguing? We're giving examples of 1st party published Switch games that are under $60.

I'm basically saying the 3ds shouldn't receive these titles. They're doing terrible (except for Pokemon). Superstar saga DX would've done much better on the Switch. 

 

I get Nintendo wants to support it, but at the same time it's costing them sales



monocle_layton said:

I'm basically saying the 3ds shouldn't receive these titles. They're doing terrible (except for Pokemon). Superstar saga DX would've done much better on the Switch. 

 

I get Nintendo wants to support it, but at the same time it's costing them sales

To interject here, I think you're hitting a bit of a brick wall. You see, the reality is, as great as the 3DS titles are - a lot of them are stop-gap games. They're games to satisfy the 3DS in what is effectively it's last year of life. 

A lot of these titles are remakes of older games, ports, or late western releases. The remakes are of the more niche games in their franchises, and they're not up to the standard of the Switch. I mean don't get me wrong, Samus Returns had a lot of work put into it and so did Shadows of Valentia(it's really surprising how much work was put into Valentia in fact). But they're still more rigid experiences. Hell SOV even uses the same maps as the original game, and a lot of the same outdated mechanics, just for the sake of keeping true to the original. While people like me are interested in seeing the different variations of FE gameplay, that style conflicts with what made FE so popular. It wouldn't be up to the standards of the Awakening fans waiting for the next big console iteration.  Consider also that FE already has a game out on Switch, and it's getting a mainline one as early as next year. For Metroid Samus Returns ... the answer is a bit foggier, but I imagine that the Switch 2D Metroid should be original and not a remake. 

Also, this site has already been over this with an earlier thread, but I think people are putting too much stock in expectations. Reality is SOV and Metriod Samus Returns are selling well, not great, but good enough. I think Nintendo, you know the actual company that cares about money, would port them on the Switch immediately if there wasn't a good reason to put them on 3DS.



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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
monocle_layton said:

I'm basically saying the 3ds shouldn't receive these titles. They're doing terrible (except for Pokemon). Superstar saga DX would've done much better on the Switch. 

 

I get Nintendo wants to support it, but at the same time it's costing them sales

To interject here, I think you're hitting a bit of a brick wall. You see, the reality is, as great as the 3DS titles are - a lot of them are stop-gap games. They're games to satisfy the 3DS in what is effectively it's last year of life. 

A lot of these titles are remakes of older games, ports, or late western releases. The remakes are of the more niche games in their franchises, and they're not up to the standard of the Switch. I mean don't get me wrong, Samus Returns had a lot of work put into it and so did Shadows of Valentia(it's really surprising how much work was put into Valentia in fact). But they're still more rigid experiences. Hell SOV even uses the same maps as the original game, and a lot of the same outdated mechanics, just for the sake of keeping true to the original. While people like me are interested in seeing the different variations of FE gameplay, that style conflicts with what made FE so popular. It wouldn't be up to the standards of the Awakening fans waiting for the next big console iteration.  Consider also that FE already has a game out on Switch, and it's getting a mainline one as early as next year. For Metroid Samus Returns ... the answer is a bit foggier, but I imagine that the Switch 2D Metroid should be original and not a remake. 

Also, this site has already been over this with an earlier thread, but I think people are putting too much stock in expectations. Reality is SOV and Metriod Samus Returns are selling well, not great, but good enough. I think Nintendo, you know the actual company that cares about money, would port them on the Switch immediately if there wasn't a good reason to put them on 3DS.

Huh, suppose looking at it that way does make sense.

 

I've been optimistic with Nintendo even during the Wii U era, so I don't think I'll worry over quantity output for the years to come. I'd definitely take a new 2d metroid over a remake as you said. Perhaps in 4-5 years we may see remakes for older titles



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This is year 1 of Switch, so virtually all first party games are big guns that are undoubtedly meant to sell the hardware. This isn't complemental software by second and third string developers to round out the library.

It's how Nintendo goes about business. Their top teams are the first ones to work on new hardware while lesser studios provide the late life support for an older platform. First party software that costs less than $60 on a more frequent basis is only a matter of time because not all of the studios who worked on 3DS games are going to increase their production values to the same level as Nintendo's most important IPs.



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Green098 said:
These are really just really low budget titles being put on 3DS so it doesn't look like it's been abandoned straight away. Of course they'd do better on Switch, but that isn't really their purpose.

 

Ninty is just trying to mask the fact that they've moved on long enough to sell a few million more 3DSs this year and next. As these games fail, and systems sold starts to drop into Wii U territory, Nintendo will officially kill it. 



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monocle_layton said:
VGPolyglot said:

Snipperclips.

Most people probably think Snipperclips is a $20 game. Does that make it any worse? Nope.

 

People clearly enjoy smaller titles by Nintendo. The Wii had a lot of solid titles as well. The Switch is a perfect place for these games, especially when it becomes more affordable in the future

That's because (outside of the DLC), the original Snipperclips was a $20 game.



NawaiNey said:
Most Nintendo games should be priced like indie titles, as they have similar production values.

This is complete bullshit, most Nintendo games are extremelly polished and high quality, this argument is only said by graphic whores who belive the graphics of a game should determine its value which is pure nonsense.