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shenlong213 on 05 November 2017
Azelover said:

Why didn't they have second thoughts about the PS4 after Sony blew it with the PS3?(at least initially) They even supported the Dreamcast at launch.

Something smells. I don't think these developers hate Nintendo, they're jealous.

I remember back in 2007 Hirai in an interview said something like: "we can't let Nintendo run with the market". Basically confirming right there it's conspiratory in the way it was worded and the question.

But here's the thing: when Nintendo does well, the industry does well because they bring a lot of people in. These developers have to make their minds and bury their resentment once and for all.

Yamauchi is DEAD. WTF are they holding a grudge for? Stupid.

Wow, that's true, he said it in 2008 though



 

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OTBWY on 05 November 2017
NoCtiS_NoX said:
NintendoPie said:
It's harsh to other Japanese developers to use an image of a Capcom game as a representation of this topic. Capcom can't just be considered slow, but also incompetent and... weird.

This games says otherwise.

Monster Hunter World is not out yet, but Re7 is about the only successful things they have released in recent times, if we count out previous MonHun games and (in their own words) Ultra Street Fighter 2. Besides that, Capcom is very mismanaged.



Darwinianevolution on 05 November 2017

As long as they can bring games as soon as possible, it will be fine. It's weird that so many of them didn't have at least an upgraded 3DS port for the system, considering the Switch is replacing it.



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zorg1000 on 05 November 2017
Darc Requiem said:
Even the Wii U sold well in Japan.

What?????

It sold like 3.3 million.



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routsounmanman on 05 November 2017
Hynad said:
Easy to call out third party devs after the facts.

“The facts” state that console MH games don’t sell well. That didn’t stop Capcom from devoting a huge amount of effort and resources to MHW. 

“The facts” weren’t there for PS4 launch after the shaky PS3 situtation. That didn’t stop third parties from flocking to the system from its first year, no questions or tests required. 

It seems Nintendo, the company that has singlehandedly saved companies like Capcom, Square Enix and Konami, is the only one that has to prove themselves. 



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NoCtiS_NoX on 05 November 2017
OTBWY said:

Monster Hunter World is not out yet, but Re7 is about the only successful things they have released in recent times, if we count out previous MonHun games and (in their own words) Ultra Street Fighter 2. Besides that, Capcom is very mismanaged.

I am speaking about gameplay hence the vids. Also, I played MHW in ESGS last week. Capcom has their own booth specifically for MH. So far I liked it and from the demo I played. It's Awesome. Seeing it also in a Big Screen is fantastic. 

Also, Can you please elaborate more on the mismanaged part?



peachbuggy on 05 November 2017

I would have thought the Switch potential would have been seen by Japanese 3rd parties by June at the latest really. So, i suppose 2019 is a good call for bigger games, although i would expect ports/smaller projects to begin showing up in 2018. Still surprised about MH though.



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Nautilus on 05 November 2017
Darashiva said:
I actually don't get why it is such a huge issue for some people that third parties are being cautious about the success of a new console. There's never any guarantee that a console is going to be a profitable platform for a developer, and even if it would have been a success in Japan, one region isn't enough to justify a huge support for any console outside of niche titles and genres.

My problem is that the developers werent cautious with the PS4, and that was a home console(Im talking about japan here, since the article is about japanese companies).I get if it were companies that dont traditionally develop for handhelds, but for these companies that do, I dont get why they didnt get in earlier.Nintendo handhelds(since Switch is part handheld) never sold badly, and developers that have games that are more portable centric, like Capcom with MH, are nowhere to be seen(MH XX port doesnt count.That game is a port of an port of an expansion.I lost count of how many times Capcom resold that game).Which, if you ask anyone here, would be a garantee that would sell well on the Switch.

Thats whats mindbogling.The part why its ok to go early to other consoles, or at least offer decent support, but not for the Switch, which would also be a safe bet.



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Nautilus on 05 November 2017
vivster said:
Darashiva said:
I actually don't get why it is such a huge issue for some people that third parties are being cautious about the success of a new console. There's never any guarantee that a console is going to be a profitable platform for a developer, and even if it would have been a success in Japan, one region isn't enough to justify a huge support for any console outside of niche titles and genres.

See that's completely wrong. Any developer not developing for Nintendo right now is obviously a Nintendo hater. If you don't blindly throw millions at an unreleased Nintendo console you're not only a hater but also very stupid because Nintendo consoles are always guaranteed to make you a profit. And if they don't it's obviously your game's fault for being terrible.

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xl-klaudkil on 05 November 2017
twintail said:
2019 is a far way away for heavy hitters to land imho. Probably updated switch at the same time.

That would  be  a absolute  disaster  if switch already  needs a updated  in only  2019l



 

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