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Kerotan on 02 November 2017

So much mins information being spread around in here it's crazy



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Lawlight on 02 November 2017
Jumpin said:
So that means the 20M paying PSN users spend an average of about 300€ per year.

I didn’t realize it was so expensive.

What’s expensive?



Lawlight on 02 November 2017
Kyuu said:
Wright said:

There were two different models, one offered for 600 bucks and the other one offered for 500, but since you mentioned the retrocompatibility aspect, only found on the 600-bucks model, I thought you were mainly referring to that one.

... The $499 20 GB model was also fully backwards compatible, silly. And ALL PS3 models are backwards compatible with PS1. This is hardly my main point anyway, I was more focused on the paid multiplayer which Microsoft popularized and eventually caused a financially troubled Sony (and soon Nintendo) to follow suit.

Thank goodness the majorities of Xbox fans didn't accept the toxic pre-launch Xbox ONE policies..

contestgamer said:

PS3 outsold XB360

Hardware sales/market share isn't the sole factor for gauging success. Xbox sales jumped from 24m to 85m with X360. Playstation (home console) sales fell from 157m to 86m+ with PS3. Sony was bleeding money while Xbox was printing them. Of course a large part of that was thanks to Xbox Live.

I don’t think the gaming division of MS was printing money.



Wright on 02 November 2017
Kyuu said:
Wright said:

There were two different models, one offered for 600 bucks and the other one offered for 500, but since you mentioned the retrocompatibility aspect, only found on the 600-bucks model, I thought you were mainly referring to that one.

... The $499 20 GB model was also fully backwards compatible, silly. And ALL PS3 models are backwards compatible with PS1.

You try to save face now fool, but you don't realize I have you in my claws already! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

Kyuu said:
When consumers could have supported the ambitious, more reliable PS3, with its free online service, and full backwards compatibility with the two greatest gaming systems [...]

There's only, and I repeat, only one PS3 SKU that fits that description you provided, and that's the 600 bucks model.



NintendoPie on 02 November 2017
Kerotan said:
So much mins information being spread around in here it's crazy

Craziest thing I've read so far is that Nintendo needs to climb a mountain or something in order to "beat" Sony. What an odd perspective!



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AlfredoTurkey on 02 November 2017

It's a SERVICE... not a console or games. Apples to apples people.



DonFerrari on 02 November 2017
Wright said:
Kyuu said:

... The $499 20 GB model was also fully backwards compatible, silly. And ALL PS3 models are backwards compatible with PS1.

You try to save face now fool, but you don't realize I have you in my claws already! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

Kyuu said:
When consumers could have supported the ambitious, more reliable PS3, with its free online service, and full backwards compatibility with the two greatest gaming systems [...]

There's only, and I repeat, only one PS3 SKU that fits that description you provided, and that's the 600 bucks model.

There were the Genesis collection, and it had the PS1 for all games, so it had 2 of the greatest gaming systems before it =p



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pastro243 on 03 November 2017
Jumpin said:
So that means the 20M paying PSN users spend an average of about 300€ per year.

I didn’t realize it was so expensive.

?? You don't need psplus to buy games on the ps store



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torok on 03 November 2017
DonFerrari said:

Yep it was written on the floor.

Pretty much. And now people seem to think that flooding the PS Blog will change anything. Before making online mandatory, PS+ had around 1M subscribers. Now it is arouns 40 to 50% of the PS4 sales numbers, so we can guess they have a good 30M paying subscribers. People voting with the wallet.

The next stuff that people will vote with the wallet is microtransactions. Fifa Ultimate Team makes 1 billion dollars every year.



Bet with jetforcejiminy: PS4 will pass the Wii lifetime numbers.

Azzanation on 03 November 2017
Lawlight said:
Kyuu said:

... The $499 20 GB model was also fully backwards compatible, silly. And ALL PS3 models are backwards compatible with PS1. This is hardly my main point anyway, I was more focused on the paid multiplayer which Microsoft popularized and eventually caused a financially troubled Sony (and soon Nintendo) to follow suit.

Thank goodness the majorities of Xbox fans didn't accept the toxic pre-launch Xbox ONE policies..

Hardware sales/market share isn't the sole factor for gauging success. Xbox sales jumped from 24m to 85m with X360. Playstation (home console) sales fell from 157m to 86m+ with PS3. Sony was bleeding money while Xbox was printing them. Of course a large part of that was thanks to Xbox Live.

I don’t think the gaming division of MS was printing money.

Thats what MS want you to think.

Honestly Xbox Live has been going on for more than a decade. The amount of income Live would have created by itself is through the roof. Plus the software sold more on 360 and to add the 360 sold extremly well at its prime while PS3 only started to sell well when price drops started to happen. 360 was a huge success compared to the PS3. Doesn't matter who sold more in the end.

Sony would rather forget the PS3

MS would be placing the 360 on a pedestal.