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Forums - Sales Discussion - UK Sales Chart, Week Ending 21-Oct-2017, Gran Turismo Tops (~80K)

Errorist76 on 23 October 2017
Teeqoz said:
Errorist76 said:

Shorter development cycle?! Now you gotta be kidding me.

Forza 7 is just an updated Forza 6 with all payed DLCs which just was an updated Forza 5 with all payed DLCs...Which started development after Forza 4. Like 6 years ago.

pCARS 2 is an updated PCARS which started development like what, 7 years ago?!

 

Polyphony deliberately scrapped all the old shit and started again from 0.

Why are people behaving so unreasonably?!

What is it with people mentioning games I never did? Where did Project Cars come from?

Forza 7 released two years after Forza 6, ie. a two year dev cycle. Of course they reuse assets but you might as well say Uncharted 4 had a 10 year dev cycle because it's on the same engine as Uncharted 1....

Bad analogy from your side. If you had played Forza 6 and 7 you’d know they’re essentially the same game, just downgraded in some areas and upgraded in others.

..just like GT6 compared to GT5 was, and sales were going down respectively. The same happened to Forza 7 now. GT made the necessary changes to be able to survive in the future.



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Lawlight on 23 October 2017
MichealJetli said:
flashfire926 said:

If you're talking about UK, Forza horizon 3 is easily gonna beat the other two.

Worldwide since Switch install base is too small for UK market

And the PS4 library is too big for such a comparison.



Errorist76 on 23 October 2017
DonFerrari said:

Why are people behaving so unreasonably?! Especially since the attention to detail in GTS is clearly above the competition.

if you don’t believe it, just watch Digital Foundry’s take on it.

Also don't forget to put that they decided to make the engine overblowed with models that doesn't run on PS4Pro, colors that doesn't show on HDR10 and other megalomaniac Kazunorisms.

Also I need to point out that PD last official headcount was around 140 people (and now they have decided to even do the art and marketing internally) while Turn 10 have been seem to have over 300 employees. And considering the amount of games released I have little reason to suspect Turn 10 have something between 2-3x more people in the team.

 

They are 200 people strong now, as far as I know. Kaz said it in one of the documentaries about him and the game.

..your point still stands.

Turn 10 even outsource the vehicle creation, PD do them all in-house.



DonFerrari on 23 October 2017
Errorist76 said:
DonFerrari said:

Also don't forget to put that they decided to make the engine overblowed with models that doesn't run on PS4Pro, colors that doesn't show on HDR10 and other megalomaniac Kazunorisms.

Also I need to point out that PD last official headcount was around 140 people (and now they have decided to even do the art and marketing internally) while Turn 10 have been seem to have over 300 employees. And considering the amount of games released I have little reason to suspect Turn 10 have something between 2-3x more people in the team.

 

They are 200 people strong now, as far as I know. Kaz said it in one of the documentaries about him and the game.

..your point still stands.

Turn 10 even outsource the vehicle creation, PD do them all in-house.

Happy to know they have basically doubled the studio from the time of GT5 (they gone from 100-110 to 140 close to GT5 launch), but it is still a little small for all crazy Kaz dreams.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Kerotan on 23 October 2017
tbone51 said:
Kerotan said:

Imo we will see a GT7 in a few years.  Time will tell who's right. 

Can we do the same for MH5? 

Well mh5 is a massive improvement for the series so it's harder to apply the logic but feel free too if you want. I won't stop you. 



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Farsala on 23 October 2017

I think GTS did pretty good considering the decline of the racing genre lately. However legs is all that matters for GT games.



MichealJetli on 23 October 2017
Lawlight said:
MichealJetli said:

Worldwide since Switch install base is too small for UK market

And the PS4 library is too big for such a comparison.

GT6+Sport vs MK8+MK8D or HZD vs BOTW

wanna bet? XD



Noobie on 24 October 2017

Just to bring the actual data from Bruno post in Neogaf

Gran Turismo - 44,000
Gran Turismo 2 - 115,000
Gran Turismo 3 - 74,000
Gran Turismo 4 - 253,000
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue - 108,000
Gran Turismo 5 - 269,000
Gran Turismo 6 - 55,000
So
Gran Turismo Sport - 85,000-90,000* using GT5 numbers (269,000/3)

Which is probably ok.. Depends how good are the legs.



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Noobie on 24 October 2017

GTS: 73,688.
From Neogaf poster.



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DonFerrari on 24 October 2017
Noobie said:
GTS: 73,688.
From Neogaf poster.

Because in one other poster it was said it only outsold GT1 and 6.

Still besides GT4 and 5, it is quite close to the others.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."