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Mandalore76 said:
V-r0cK said:
Expected. I wont be surprised if EA started dropping everything that's suppose to come out to the Switch.

This was always going to be an issue with 3rd party "multiplat" games and the Switch; Is it worth it for companies to spend extra time and money on a system with a much lower install base to get an even lower of sales?

Was this version, released in 2013 on a 13 year old system, worth EA's time and money to port onto almost 2 gen old technology?    

And by your "lower install base" logic, no new consoles should ever receive 3rd party games during their launch year.

Football games sell paticularly well in markets outside of Japan and USA and usually Playstation dominates there. The PS2 sold very well for a long time and 100k was worth the effort apparently. But the real answer is way more simplistic EA has a great relationship with PS and a mediocre one with Nintendo although they will never say that in the press. Even when the PS3 sold bad it got good third party support while developing things for the PS3 was a disaster. 



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Wait wait wait

Stock issues? With less than TEN THOUSAND SOLD?

What wingnut loons say they want their game to be a must have and 1) strip features, 2) barely promote it, and 3) ship like 10k to a major market for their product? What drugs is EA on these days?



Mandalore76 said:
V-r0cK said:
Expected. I wont be surprised if EA started dropping everything that's suppose to come out to the Switch.

This was always going to be an issue with 3rd party "multiplat" games and the Switch; Is it worth it for companies to spend extra time and money on a system with a much lower install base to get an even lower of sales?

Was this version, released in 2013 on a 13 year old system, worth EA's time and money to port onto almost 2 gen old technology?    

And by your "lower install base" logic, no new consoles should ever receive 3rd party games during their launch year.

Maybe this is new info for you (regards to FIFA 14 on PS2):
1) While we're get the latest consoles other countries are finally getting last gen consoles or older so maybe PS2 was building a lot of sales from those countries around the time that was launched.
2) ..and likely those countries love soccer as it's probably their national sport too.

So in a sense, yes it definitely could've been worth EA's time and money. And seeing as PS2 is old technology it probably wasn't all that hard to.  We dont have PS2 numbers for FIFA 14 but i wouldn't be surprised if it sold more than FIFA18 on Switch.

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To clarify my 'logic', I'm actually basing it off the fact that the Switch launched when there's already a combined +80M install base of PS4/XB1.  So ya I think it makes sense if you really think about it in a business stand point.



Ka-pi96 said:
Volterra_90 said:

It depends on how you look at it. It might be that percentage-wise UK might be one of the worst Nintendo territories (I don't have numbers for this so I don't really know though ). Which is what we're getting in these numbers actually. In numbers of consoles, it's important though. That's for sure.

Percentage wise Nintendo's market share for current systems is only 3.7% lower than the US. Is the US one of Nintendo's worst territories too now?
Lifetime Nintendo marketshare of PS3/PS4/Vita/X360/XOne/3DS/WiiU/Switch as per VGC (UK: 15.88%, US: 19.59%)

Besides, even if they had only 15% market share in the UK, that would still mean a lot more than even 100% market share in some countries.

You do realize that going from 15.88% to 19.59% is a 23.36% increase, right?

Also, in what sense are PS3, X360, Wii U, and Vita current systems?

US: NS / (NS + PS4 + XOne) = 4.84%
UK: NS / (NS + PS4 + XOne) = 3.38% ± 0.55% (Assuming Switch is between 245,217 and 341,609)

So Switch is already doing at least 14.0% better in US than UK, and it could be doing up to 58.9% better (which is what VGChartz says).



UK has always been a strong market for Nintendo portable systems and Fifa is big here. Sometimes the people who buy systems can be different, younger compared to other markets. I have only ever bought Fifa from the bargain bins often just at pence rather than pounds. It's a franchise where the value of the game seems to drop hugely as the year goes on until next year's version comes out. Buy a Fifa 2 years old and they are practically giving it away.

It's going to be interesting to see if portability makes third party support more robust and viable. It looks like the same as wii u currently in that it needs to be the right type of game, Lego Worlds for example to sell well on Switch. EA may just need to be more selective what they bring to Switch rather than abandon supporting it.

We will get a better picture when we see how Doom, Wolfenstein and even Skyrim sell on the system worldwide on Switch. Definitely looking a bit similar to wii u despite the portability feature though.

I bought my wii u mainly for Nintendo games and most third party games were a bit crap compared to other formats due to the weak hardware. I mainly enjoyed my wii u because of first party games and was often unimpressed with third party games which played badly on the system, missing features, low frame rates, slow loading, inferior controller etc. In the end I only really bought them because they were massively discounted because they sold so badly and even then I often regretted buying them and left them to play other versions.

I'm sure there are many that think the same and just want Switch exclusive games or games that really work well with the hardware. There are lots of features of Switch the ps4 and xbone don't have and games need to play to those strengths be it hd feedback, enhanced motion controls, portability, touch screen, portable gaming for 2 or more players.

It may be that Fifa genuinely couldn't run the same engine as ps4 or xbone on Switch but it seems more like lack of ambition from the start. I never bought it but I remember the wii u version was pretty awful as was the basketball game I believe. Both horribly compromised on wii u if I remember rightly with no attempt to run the same engine as ps3 and 360. I think NBA was better on wii u as a port but still had choppy frame rates.

Perhaps Switch owners remember EA's wii u efforts previously.



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PEEPer0nni said:
GoOnKid said:

Gosh, I hate EA so much!

Sorry, just had to get this off my chest. Please go on, thread.

You should hate Nintendo for being completely cheap with their hardware (that's why there won't be RDR2 or MHW on the Switch). Can't wait for Doom and L.A noire to flop.

There's something wrong with you. Seriously.



Ka-pi96 said:
OTBWY said:

Can you tell me which one is weaker? Because if we're talking about the ME or LA, then that's a different conversation.

Every single one except for the US, Japan, France and Germany.

Basically every relevant market right here.



Fantastic! Hopefully EA doesn't release anymore of their shit on the Switch.



Ka-pi96 said:
StarDoor said:

You do realize that going from 15.88% to 19.59% is a 23.36% increase, right?

Also, in what sense are PS3, X360, Wii U, and Vita current systems?

US: NS / (NS + PS4 + XOne) = 4.84%
UK: NS / (NS + PS4 + XOne) = 3.38% ± 0.55% (Assuming Switch is between 245,217 and 341,609)

So Switch is already doing at least 14.0% better in US than UK, and it could be doing up to 58.9% better (which is what VGChartz says).

Why are you talking about % increases of marketshare (which is already a %)? That just seems a really weird way to compare things. Seems much more normal to me to just talk about the standard % difference, ie. 3.7

Also, PS3/X360/WiiU/Vita not exactly being current isn't really relevant. I was making the point that Nintendo's UK sales aren't that far behind the US (in terms of marketshare). And the best way to do that is to look at last gen as well.

No, your way of comparing percentages is ridiculous. We're talking about the relative performance of Nintendo in the UK and USA.

If Nintendo had 1% marketshare in the UK, and 4% in the USA, you wouldn't say "Wow, Nintendo's marketshare in the USA is barely ahead of its marketshare in the UK! There's only a 3% difference!" You would say "Wow, Nintendo's marketshare is 4 times as big in the USA as it is in the UK!"



This game is doing better than it did on the Wii U if you want to call that an accomplishment. Though the Wii U version had huge legs apparently.

Either way it is too early to call it a bomb. I would call it an underperformance.

Also this thread turned sour like that indie thread.



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