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xl-klaudkil on 17 October 2017
Pionner said:
All the latest PS4 bundles have been charting very low. I don't know if it's PS4 market saturation at those prices and it needs a price cut.

It definitely  is, 450-300 is just to expensive  4 years into its life.



 

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p0isonparadise on 17 October 2017

11 hours since last update.

HARDWARE:
#09 NS Grey (same)
#18 NS Neon (down 6)
#21 NS Mario (up 2)
#24 SNES Classic (same)
#46 PS4 Pro Star Wars LE (down 7)*
#50 PS4 Fool's Edition (down 8)
#53 XB1 (up 5)
#84 PS4 Pro (down 8)
#96 PS4 Pro Destiny (down 24)
#98 PS4 COD (down 9)*

SOFTWARE (Pre-orders Only)**:
#01 NS Super Mario Odyssey (same)
#14 NS Fire Emblem Warriors (up 4)

Does not affect this month: *
Software outside of the month only gets added if it's in the top 20: **

PS4: 5 in the top 100 / 2 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
XB1: 1 in the top 100 / 0 in the top 50 / 0 in the top 20 / 0 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5
NIS: 3 in the top 100 / 3 in the top 50 / 3 in the top 20 / 1 in the top 10 / 0 in the top 5



Pionner on 17 October 2017
xl-klaudkil said:
Pionner said:
All the latest PS4 bundles have been charting very low. I don't know if it's PS4 market saturation at those prices and it needs a price cut.

It definitely  is, 450-300 is just to expensive  4 years into its life.
Paris Games Week should be interesting.

 



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RJ_Sizzle on 17 October 2017
Pionner said:
All the latest PS4 bundles have been charting very low. I don't know if it's PS4 market saturation at those prices and it needs a price cut.

It's definitely time to pull the trigger. Sony seems more concerned with trying to milk profits than staying competitive. New challengers have entered the picture. Can't just sit pretty anymore. The money will be made back by getting people into the ecosystem. I remember last gen when Xbox 360 had a LARGE gap in units in the US ahead of Sony, and they still reacted to Sony's price cuts. $449 for a PS pro does nothing for marketshare.



WebMasterFlex on 17 October 2017

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Nuvendil on 17 October 2017
xl-klaudkil said:
Pionner said:
All the latest PS4 bundles have been charting very low. I don't know if it's PS4 market saturation at those prices and it needs a price cut.

It definitely  is, 450-300 is just to expensive  4 years into its life.

 

RJ_Sizzle said:
Pionner said:
All the latest PS4 bundles have been charting very low. I don't know if it's PS4 market saturation at those prices and it needs a price cut.

It's definitely time to pull the trigger. Sony seems more concerned with trying to milk profits than staying competitive. New challengers have entered the picture. Can't just sit pretty anymore. The money will be made back by getting people into the ecosystem. I remember last gen when Xbox 360 had a LARGE gap in units in the US ahead of Sony, and they still reacted to Sony's price cuts. $449 for a PS pro does nothing for marketshare.

And yet they're sales are still up year on year and still beating all opponents globally on a regular basis and standing toe to toe with the Switch in the States.  And as someone already pointed out, PS4 charting positions here are not unusual for the time, the Switch is just way higher than is typical.  

You people keep crying out that the market is saturated and it's too expensive but all actual evidence says otherwise. 



Shaunodon on 17 October 2017
Nuvendil said:
xl-klaudkil said:

It definitely  is, 450-300 is just to expensive  4 years into its life.

 

RJ_Sizzle said:

It's definitely time to pull the trigger. Sony seems more concerned with trying to milk profits than staying competitive. New challengers have entered the picture. Can't just sit pretty anymore. The money will be made back by getting people into the ecosystem. I remember last gen when Xbox 360 had a LARGE gap in units in the US ahead of Sony, and they still reacted to Sony's price cuts. $449 for a PS pro does nothing for marketshare.

And yet they're sales are still up year on year and still beating all opponents globally on a regular basis and standing toe to toe with the Switch in the States.  And as someone already pointed out, PS4 charting positions here are not unusual for the time, the Switch is just way higher than is typical.  

You people keep crying out that the market is saturated and it's too expensive but all actual evidence says otherwise. 

I think we should hold off and see how the holidays go first.

The PS4's lineup is looking noticeably slim and stale compared to previous years, especially with GTSport looking like a bit of a bomb. And the competition from Switch and XB1X could be significant.

Wouldn't surprise me if we do see a PS4 price drop just for safety.



Nuvendil on 17 October 2017
Shaunodon said:
Nuvendil said:

 

And yet they're sales are still up year on year and still beating all opponents globally on a regular basis and standing toe to toe with the Switch in the States.  And as someone already pointed out, PS4 charting positions here are not unusual for the time, the Switch is just way higher than is typical.  

You people keep crying out that the market is saturated and it's too expensive but all actual evidence says otherwise. 

I think we should hold off and see how the holidays go first.

The PS4's lineup is looking noticeably slim and stale compared to previous years, especially with GTSport looking like a bit of a bomb. And the competition from Switch and XB1X could be significant.

Wouldn't surprise me if we do see a PS4 price drop just for safety.

I anticipate a black friday deal, not a price drop.  PS4 is currently the domminant brand in consumer mind share and has the more positive image vs Xbox.  It will get the lion's share of multiplat driven sales.  Again.  And those games being sequels is unlikely to be much of an issue.  I kinda find it funny people brought that up.  

Nothe brand most likely to feel the sting of Switch sales is Xbox One.  Makes a weaker argument for primary platform status and a weak argument for secondary system status.  Switch could eat into sales on both fronts, especially secondary system sales.  Playstation has a very firm hold on primary system sales.



TheBlackNaruto on 17 October 2017
Shaunodon said:
Nuvendil said:

 

And yet they're sales are still up year on year and still beating all opponents globally on a regular basis and standing toe to toe with the Switch in the States.  And as someone already pointed out, PS4 charting positions here are not unusual for the time, the Switch is just way higher than is typical.  

You people keep crying out that the market is saturated and it's too expensive but all actual evidence says otherwise. 

I think we should hold off and see how the holidays go first.

The PS4's lineup is looking noticeably slim and stale compared to previous years, especially with GTSport looking like a bit of a bomb. And the competition from Switch and XB1X could be significant.

Wouldn't surprise me if we do see a PS4 price drop just for safety.

What did they have for previous years that makes this year seem slim and stale?



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Shaunodon on 17 October 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
Shaunodon said:

I think we should hold off and see how the holidays go first.

The PS4's lineup is looking noticeably slim and stale compared to previous years, especially with GTSport looking like a bit of a bomb. And the competition from Switch and XB1X could be significant.

Wouldn't surprise me if we do see a PS4 price drop just for safety.

What did they have for previous years that makes this year seem slim and stale?

You can go through previous years bestsellers and look for yourself, since I can't be bothered having to list them all right now.

It shouldn't be that hard to see, unless you can point out which new games this year are going to be big hits, or which sequels aren't either suffering from franchise fatigue or controversy.