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bluesinG said:
SlumsofOhio said:
Mr. Domino said:
Hi,

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249


the end

Well, that sums up this thread.


Last generation, the PS2 launched at $299, whereas the Dreamcast and GameCube launched at $199. Guess that explains why the PS2 sold so poorly.


Many individuals were using their ps2 as their first DVD players since back in 2000/2001 it was still a pretty new technology.  The cost of having just one device instead of two might have been worth the extra $100.



 

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Mr. Domino said:
Hi,

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249


the end

Yes, and that is why the GC sell a lot more than PS2.

OT: Very good week to Nintendo and more important without big releases



MANUELF said:
Mr. Domino said:
Hi,

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249


the end

Yes, and that is why the GC sell a lot more than PS2.

OT: Very good week to Nintendo and more important without big releases


 That would be true since the GC is not really marketed and has no new games on the horizon while the PS2 still is/does?



 

MANUELF said:
Mr. Domino said:
Hi,

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249


the end

Yes, and that is why the GC sell a lot more than PS2.

OT: Very good week to Nintendo and more important without big releases


 Oh please, the GC was never 150 dollars less than the PS2 let alone 250 dollars (that 80 gig). Yes it was a great week for Nintendo and all, but there's no way you could possibly think that if the the Wii was priced at 399 it would sell as great as it has. It's not performing the way it is JUST because of the motion sensing and some great titles. 



Mr. Domino said:
MANUELF said:
Mr. Domino said:
Hi,

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249


the end

Yes, and that is why the GC sell a lot more than PS2.

OT: Very good week to Nintendo and more important without big releases


That would be true since the GC is not really marketed and has no new games on the horizon while the PS2 still is/does?


 Your ability to recognize sarcasm is about as good as your analysis of Wii/PS3 sales.

@Jai93485 That argument doesn't work. If the Wii were $399 it would have an additional $150 worth of technology inside it. It wouldn't be the same console with the same graphics, so there's no way to predict how an HD version of the Wii would have sold.



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Phendrana said:
Mr. Domino said:
MANUELF said:
Mr. Domino said:
Hi,

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249


the end

Yes, and that is why the GC sell a lot more than PS2.

OT: Very good week to Nintendo and more important without big releases


That would be true since the GC is not really marketed and has no new games on the horizon while the PS2 still is/does?


Your ability to recognize sarcasm is about as good as your analysis of Wii/PS3 sales.

@Jai93485 That argument doesn't work. If the Wii were $399 it would have an additional $150 worth of technology inside it. It wouldn't be the same console with the same graphics, so there's no way to predict how an HD version of the Wii would have sold.


what part of this analysis is not true?

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249?
 



 

Certainly, price is a large factor, and shall continue to be.

However, if you are admitting that the price of the PS3 was a bad marketing decision, you seem to be attempting to use damage control on these numbers to make it seem like, "Well the PS3 is actually better than the Wii, it just costs more because it's better and the public doesn't know anything."

This means:

A. The blue-ocean marketing strategy, and indeed marketing and commercialism in general for all systems, mean nothing. They are a waste of money. Consoles sale strictly based on their price.

B. Games mean nothing. Console sell strictly on their price.

C. Gimmicks mean nothing. Fads mean nothing. No fad or gimmick could ever exist that mattered, because consoles sell strictly on their price.

D. Stigimatization, trends, and public perception mean nothing. One price drop could make the 360 the top system this gen if only MS would wise up.

So, what your telling me is, Sony could have easily been the market leader by creating the PS3 to be cheaper than the Wii.

However, because of inept management, to further Blu-Ray, or because of devotion to their fans, they created a more expensive system, at the cost of their dominant brand name.


Don't you think saying that price is the only factor is a gross oversimplification?

I own a PS3, and a Wii. I have to tell you. I can see why the average person buys up the Wii first. It's cheaper, fresh and exciting, and has delivered largely on the gaming front. It also appeals to retro gamers who were once Nintendo fans with the VC, and non gamers with casual games such as Wii-Fit and Wii Sports. It seems to me like those factors also matter.



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ZenfoldorVGI said:
Certainly, price is a large factor, and shall continue to be.

However, if you are admitting that the price of the PS3 was a bad marketing decision, you seem to be attempting to use damage control on these numbers to make it seem like, "Well the PS3 is actually better than the Wii, it just costs more because it's better and the public doesn't know anything."

This means:

A. The blue-ocean marketing strategy, and indeed marketing and commercialism in general for all systems, mean nothing. They are a waste of money. Consoles sale strictly based on their price.

B. Games mean nothing. Console sell strictly on their price.

C. Gimmicks mean nothing. Fads mean nothing. No fad or gimmick could ever exist that mattered, because consoles sell strictly on their price.

D. Stigimatization, trends, and public perception mean nothing. One price drop could make the 360 the top system this gen if only MS would wise up.

So, what your telling me is, Sony could have easily been the market leader by creating the PS3 to be cheaper than the Wii.

However, because of inept management, to further Blu-Ray, or because of devotion to their fans, they created a more expensive system, at the cost of their dominant brand name.


Don't you think saying that price is the only factor is a gross oversimplification?

I own a PS3, and a Wii. I have to tell you. I can see why the average person buys up the Wii first. It's cheaper, fresh and exciting, and has delivered largely on the gaming front. It also appeals to retro gamers who were once Nintendo fans with the VC, and non gamers with casual games such as Wii-Fit and Wii Sports. It seems to me like those factors also matter.

 Very well said. I agree 100%, and probably couldn't have said it better myself.



Mr. Domino said:
 


what part of this analysis is not true?

Retail price of PS3 40gb $399
Retail price of Wii $249

$399 > $249?
 


Yes but there is a lack of logic behind the original post...

 

Sony choose the pricetag of the PS3, not Nintendo

Sony choose to leave the mainstream marked for the so called "hardcore/technophiles market" , evidence price and features for both, the market and the devs (Making hard to dev the shovelware featured in the PS2 and PS)

Ninty keep a nice entry price point for both themarket and the devs

Ninty found a way to atrack the mainstream market

The whole 399>249 olny shows how bad the Sony choices were, and how they are struggling to attrack the same market that they choose to ignore early in the gen...

The 399>249 argument is just damage control (Like Zen said), it was Sony fault and they are paying for it...



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