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SpokenTruth said:

Side R:

Shows up armed and in fatigues, carrying police like riot gear or carrying torches....and hate.

 

Side L:

Shows up because Side R is there looking like the above.  Came with signs, bullhorns and balls.

 

Side Far L:

Shows up because Side R shows up.  Wears masks and carries shields.

 

I wonder which side seems more hateful and prepared/wanting violence?

 

 

 

 

 

 

even in some of the damn videos with the car, you clearly see people with bats rushing to swing at the car 

 

why be dishonest about it? you really think you are helping the world through being deceitful?



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VGPolyglot said:
Holy shit, almost 600 posts. I wish there were other threads that could drive the same volume of discussion that this one has.

Unless thet're about Trump and/or terrorism, off-topic threads rarely get big. But maybe that's a good thing, since threads like this one always turn into an endless left versus right discussion (or rather, left/centre/right versus far right).



SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

you really think you are helping the world through being deceitful?

I'm helping the world by denouncing hate.

Do you not denounce hate?

 

if you condone hate and violence from people simply because they wear the same label as you while claiming you denouce hate and violence then to be frank i'd say you are being hypocritical

all i can ask you to do, is to try to widen your perspective on things a bit, the attitude i outlined above whether you are actually acting in accordance with it or not is how the real nazis got into power

the people of germany saw certain types of people across the world as their kin and everyone else as their enemy to be destroyed ( as you do now ) and that's how calamity followed 

again that's not to say that certain attitudes and behaviors should not be condemned but the condemnation must be tempered by reason ( which is not the case in this context as far as i'm concerned )

 

this reminds me of that other thread where people claimed morality comes entirely from empathy without realising that empathy is selective with regards to social groupings... this is a great example of what i was talking about



SpokenTruth said:

Side R:

Shows up armed and in fatigues, carrying police like riot gear.

lol how can this be legal? Surely it can't be.



Soundwave said:
Slimebeast said:

Yeah, of course Soundwave is coming to spin a careless comment.

You should give credit to me for my honesty if anything.

But to clarify, the right wingers didn't attack defenseless innocent migrants, they attacked migrant thugs and criminals who sell drugs and harrass pedestrians at the city centre of Stockholm. And the violence was relatively mild, throwing a punch or two at most.

Hate is probably a too strong of a word. Angry is more relevant. I feel very angry towards the masses of migrants who behave badly, and angry towards all the inhumane traitors who support them.

Maybe you shouldn't be so "careless" about the shit you type? 

Maybe you should expand your brain to try and look at people as individuals, but it doesn't seem likely in your case, you seem rather unable to process at that level. You're mad at people for existing and wanting a life style similar to your own and no one's stopping you from enjoying "European heritage" (whatever the fuck that is in 2017 with the internet, iPhone, video game consoles, mass transit, airplanes, microwaves McDonalds, brand clothing, living a life style that people 200 years ago of virtually any culture wouldn't recoginize to begin with).

To look at people as individuals yes, but society is made up of individuals who form groups.

You want to live in a multicultural society. I respect that, but I do not respect that you're trying to force this on everyone else as it's some kind of inevitable natural law.

I want to live in a society that is predominantly white, just like my forefathers have for thousands of years. It's perfectly natural and sane, and therefore I'm advancing this idea by democratic means and free speech, just like the majority of guys in Charlotsville were.

I love white culture and the white race, and I'm going to resist any attempts to eradicate my people, and I'm going to call out anybody who try to demonize us. Especially those who support the self-determination of other ethnic groups in the world, but reject this idea when it comes to white people because that's hypocritical, unfair and simply evil.



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Despite the decades of brainwash, multiculturalist propaganda and virtue signaling in my country, more than half of ethnic Swedish men of my age (30-50 years old) right now support the Swedish Democrats in opinion polls, the political party that my fellow countryman Hiku in this thread is pointing out was partly founded by "white supremacists" or neo nazis two decades ago. A party that will become the biggest or 2nd biggest in the upcoming elections according to all experts.

"In Sweden! Can you believe it? SWEDEN!"  (Trump quote)

It's controversial and not politically correct to openly state that you prefer to live in a homogenous society with people who look like you, act like you and behave similar to yourself, but in secret, this is what the majority of people think (at least middle aged men, evidently) and it's nothing to be ashamed of.





CaptainExplosion said:
SpokenTruth said:

I'm helping the world by denouncing hate.

Do you not denounce hate?

I do, and if we have to denounce hate with weapons then so be it.

You're just helping to reveal the true colors of the extreme left, just like it has been since 150 years now and the days of Karl Marx and his predictions about the bloody proletariat dictatorship, the transgressions against humanity by Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot in the name of "the greater good".

A "The end justifies the means" philosophy.

CaptainExplosion said:
Slimebeast said:

lol how can this be legal? Surely it can't be.

They're Americans, what did you expect? That's why I'm staying in Canada, because here we don't encourage the murder of people based on their skin or religion.

But seriously. It can't be legal to walk around with an assault rifle in public space?

I mean the demonstrators in Charlotsville, they were afraid to be arrested when carrying a concealed pocket knife or spray mace and then be charged with a jail sentence.

Could someone explain the law here? What's with this picture of these two thugs walking around on streets with Call of Duty assault rifles lol?



Slimebeast said:

Despite the decades of brainwash, multiculturalist propaganda and virtue signaling in my country, more than half of ethnic Swedish men of my age (30-50 years old) right now support the Swedish Democrats in opinion polls, the political party that my fellow countryman Hiku in this thread is pointing out was partly founded by "white supremacists" or neo nazis two decades ago. A party that will become the biggest or 2nd biggest in the upcoming elections according to all experts.

"In Sweden! Can you believe it? SWEDEN!"  (Trump quote)

It's controversial and not politically correct to openly state that you prefer to live in a homogenous society with people who look like you, act like you and behave similar to yourself, but in secret, this is what the majority of people think (at least middle aged men, evidently) and it's nothing to be ashamed of.



I think ideologically homogenous societies are happier places with potentially smaller governments as societal pressures keep people in line more. But I don't think people actually care how much others look like them. As long as they all speak the same language and believe in the same core principles.



Slimebeast said:

Despite the decades of brainwash, multiculturalist propaganda and virtue signaling in my country, more than half of ethnic Swedish men of my age (30-50 years old) right now support the Swedish Democrats in opinion polls, the political party that my fellow countryman Hiku in this thread is pointing out was partly founded by "white supremacists" or neo nazis two decades ago. A party that will become the biggest or 2nd biggest in the upcoming elections according to all experts.

"In Sweden! Can you believe it? SWEDEN!"  (Trump quote)

It's controversial and not politically correct to openly state that you prefer to live in a homogenous society with people who look like you, act like you and behave similar to yourself, but in secret, this is what the majority of people think (at least middle aged men, evidently) and it's nothing to be ashamed of.



I guess I just don't get the "looks like you" requirement. That's the part that makes the whole thing seem racist and you should indeed be ashamed of it. If you were advocating for maintaining your country's culture, let's say by teaching about it in schools and trying to keep it strong amongst those who live there, then I'd see your point. But you don't just want to make sure that whoever lives in Sweden maintains the culture of Sweden, they also have to be the same skin color as you which is the racist part.

I guess the important question would be whether a random Turkish family that has lived in Sweden for 2 generations, and the children know only of Sweden and hold all the same cultural practices dear that you do would then be acceptable? Would that change if it was a German family? Do they have to for some reason be ethically Swedish or is it just culturally Swedish that matters? Because if it's the former then yeah that's pretty racist, but if it's the latter then I think you need to rethink how you present your side of the argument. 



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Locknuts said:
Slimebeast said:

Despite the decades of brainwash, multiculturalist propaganda and virtue signaling in my country, more than half of ethnic Swedish men of my age (30-50 years old) right now support the Swedish Democrats in opinion polls, the political party that my fellow countryman Hiku in this thread is pointing out was partly founded by "white supremacists" or neo nazis two decades ago. A party that will become the biggest or 2nd biggest in the upcoming elections according to all experts.

"In Sweden! Can you believe it? SWEDEN!"  (Trump quote)

It's controversial and not politically correct to openly state that you prefer to live in a homogenous society with people who look like you, act like you and behave similar to yourself, but in secret, this is what the majority of people think (at least middle aged men, evidently) and it's nothing to be ashamed of.



I think ideologically homogenous societies are happier places with potentially smaller governments as societal pressures keep people in line more. But I don't think people actually care how much others look like them. As long as they all speak the same language and believe in the same core principles.

I know, it's not about really caring for similar looks. But still in our society, similar looks is a marker for similar behaviour. There is a very strong correlation at the group level.