sc94597 said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
Although it can happen, as I wrote too, rabbits aren't the typical cat prey. And as YOU wrote, unowned cats are the most regular and mass killers, not owned ones, even if left free to roam. Pets should never be abandoned, as they can become more destructive than true wild animals, but this applies even more to dogs, as feral dogs in most countries are responsible for most livestock kills for which wolves and other wild predators are wrongly blamed. Those kills estimates roughly imply that there should be more than 10 millions, using the lowest numbers, and up to 70 millions using the highest ones, un-owned free-ranging domestic cats in the USA. I don't know if this is possible or not, each predator needs a large hunting area, but USA are very big. And if the number of those cats is actually unsustainable, it means that they have a smaller area than what a true wild cat needs to be in balance with the environment. But this has nothing to do with free-ranging owned cats.
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Rabbits are very common for cats to eat, and tear apart while they're doing so. Sure they aren't the most desired prey, cats prefer birds and mice, but they still love to kill, play with, and eat rabbits also.
The study said the majority comes from unowned cats (which is defined as cats which don't ever go into somebody's house, even if they feed them.
"Although our results suggest that owned cats have relatively less impact than un-owned cats, owned cats still cause substantial wildlife mortality (Table 2); simple solutions to reduce mortality caused by pets, such as limiting or preventing outdoor access, should be pursued. Efforts to better quantify and minimize mortality from all anthropogenic threats are needed to increase sustainability of wildlife populations."
"The magnitude of wildlife mortality caused by cats that we report here far exceeds all prior estimates. Available evidence suggests that mortality from cat predation is likely to be substantial in all parts of the world where free-ranging cats occur. This mortality is of particular concern within the context of steadily increasing populations of owned cats, the potential for increasing populations of un-owned cats12, and an increasing abundance of direct and indirect mortality sources that threaten wildlife in the United States and globally."
Furthermore, all unowned domesticated cats were either previously owned and neglected (not fed) or descend from previously owned cats that were allowed to roam and have babies.
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Those are just a few studies, there isn't general scientists consensus.
Moreover, you can see there are major flaws in them: they don't take into account the hundreds mice and rats a single cat kills during its life, and rats and mice, if let multiplicate without control are far more harmful for the environment, including, directly, as they kill their babies, and indirectly, as they destroy resources, birds and rabbits. Another flaw is that they don't consider that once a large enough population of feral cats exists, contribution of free-roaming domesticated cats to their growth becomes minimal, particularly now that more domesticated cats are neutered than in the past, and that abandoning them is frowned upon a lot more than in the past. Abandoning them is anyway a negative factor, this is totally true. Another flaw is that those studies seem to not mention that feral cats need to hunt every day to survive and thrive, while free-roaming well fed domesticated cats don't need it and often don't want to do it either, being lazier than feral ones. Most of them by the way rarely go very far from home, and many don't even go out every day.
In my town cats are generally loved and fed and while they often kill birds, they never endangered their species as a whole, it was only seagulls growing to an eccessive number that started seriously endangering other birds.
Again about rabbits, those in those videos all were either dwarf or young ones. My family owned tens, maybe hundreds cats in the last 40 years, and for many years we bred normal sized rabbits as livestock, and despite often some of them managed to escape, it happened only once that a cat of ours killed a rabbit, and a young and little one, adults always were unharmed. As I previously wrote, also some the neighbours' normal sized adult rabbits often escape, and neither my cats, nor the others in the neighbourhood ever harm them. But a rat-sized adult rabbit, moving quickly enough to be an interesting prey, surely wouldn't be safe, that's true.