ArchangelMadzz said:
I'm not changing the subject. I bolded that part of your message as that's what I'm applying to. The species does matter.
I don't think he was being disrespectful when he said that he obviously knows it's said and said he feels bad for the owner and wouldn't mind paying for any damages, or new cat etc.
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You are though. Your original reply was about criticizing a position I didn't take on hierarchies, and your 2nd reply was "WHATS SO HARD ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THAT A DOG KILLING A CAT IS LIKE A CAT KILLING A BIRD". Both of them had to do with hierarchies, but they're individual points, and completely different from one another.
"Really so a dog mauling a cat and a dog mauling a 5 year old girl is the same thing?"
"A cat that kills a bird is completely different to a cat that kills another cat. How is that difficult to understand?"
They're too seperate points and while they both lead back to hierarchy, it's a definite shift in goal posts. Either way it doesn't matter, because of course you completely misunderstood anything I said and failed to read my original comment. Clearly. You know I don't know about you, but I take topics of death and animal rights pretty seriously. Maybe you should read someones comment before you misrepresent their point? Because I never said what your original post said, and your 2nd post I literally agreed with in my original comment.
" I don't think he was being disrespectful when he said that he obviously knows it's said and said he feels bad for the owner and wouldn't mind paying for any damages, or new cat etc. "
His entire attitude in this thread has been to justify something because of the perspective of an animal. There's nothing wrong with taking the power chain of the animal kingdom into consideration, but he has practically acted like he didn't even care about the death of the cat. The troubling thing isn't that he's saying the dog shouldn't be put down, the troubling thing is that he is so quick to defend it without showing any remorse for the cat. You can take one or two sentences he wrote but look at the context and how he carries himself - it's clear that no real sympathy is felt for the owner. Anyone can say "I'll fix that with money - i'm super duper sorry!" But when your dog kills a cat, you shouldn't treat the situation like you accidently drove your car into another person's car. You should treat it with respect and care. I'm sure he's going to reply to criticizers of his post with "oh no I was super sad!" or "I apologized super hard!" but ultimately all we have to go on is his demeanor which isn't a good sign and it's easy to defend yourself past-tense. I'm sure you'll say something like "We can't judge OP just based on what he's typed" in which case i'd say : Why did he even bring this to VGChartz in the first place? No one has a definitive answer and this entire discussion is pretty pointless.
In the end, the heirarchy of the animal kingdom is a valid reason to give some leaway to the dog, but to human beings cats and dogs have practically the same relevance. The reason why nobody cares if a cat kills a bird is because a wide majority of people don't care about birds. If more people cared about birds maybe cats would get put down after killing birds. A dog killing a cat is ok for the dog but not okay for the people in society who own the cats. From the perspective of nature it's fine but for society a dog and a cat are about the same from a priority perspective, and the owner should have put more care in thinking about how the owner feels instead of being instantly defensive because "nature says it's okay". His original post is just so unbalanced as a whole.
I don't want to make this into a big argument because this isn't the thread for it, but I feel like I have to justify my feelings on this for no reason because someone(you) wants to be argumentative for no reason. Seems like if you just read my post we would have agreed a lot.