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Who will win Super Bowl LII?

New England Patriots 7 31.82%
 
Pittsburgh Steelers 1 4.55%
 
Jacksonville Jaguars 3 13.64%
 
Kansas City Chiefs 0 0%
 
Philadelphia Eagles 5 22.73%
 
Minnesota Vikings 3 13.64%
 
Los Angeles Rams 0 0%
 
New Orleans Saints 0 0%
 
Other 1 4.55%
 
Scoreboard 2 9.09%
 
Total:22
MTZehvor said:
Welp, as a result of Ryan Tannehill's knee injury, Jay Cutler has signed a one year deal with the Dolphins. This seems to indicate a couple of things.

#1: Tannehill is likely out for a significant period of time. We still don't have any official word on what the injury is (other than it's to his knee), but $10 million isn't an amount teams typically throw around for someone they aren't even sure will play.

#2: Someone influential on the Dolphins, be it Adam Gase, Chris Grier, or perhaps even Stephen Ross, thinks Miami is capable of competing for a Super Bowl now. Matt Moore's stats aren't significantly worse than Cutler's, but Cutler does have a lot more experience as a starting QB, especially in the postseason. This doesn't seem like a move you would make unless you have a roster that you think is capable of making a deep playoff run, and just need an experienced QB to not screw things up in the playoffs. Looking at the Dolphins currently...I don't see anything to generate that level of optimism.

They must be banking on Ajayi tearing through defenses and making it easy for his QB. They must also believe in their defense.

Something else, you've been hating that Packers offense and today I read this:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000825664/article/packers-o-could-be-unstoppable-dalvin-cook-set-for-big-season

Yes, Bucky is biased towards the Packers, but still... you are a hater. You probably think that the Patriots have the Super Bowl in the bag already (and that's probably true), but still... you are a hater.



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RolStoppable said:
MTZehvor said:
Welp, as a result of Ryan Tannehill's knee injury, Jay Cutler has signed a one year deal with the Dolphins. This seems to indicate a couple of things.

#1: Tannehill is likely out for a significant period of time. We still don't have any official word on what the injury is (other than it's to his knee), but $10 million isn't an amount teams typically throw around for someone they aren't even sure will play.

#2: Someone influential on the Dolphins, be it Adam Gase, Chris Grier, or perhaps even Stephen Ross, thinks Miami is capable of competing for a Super Bowl now. Matt Moore's stats aren't significantly worse than Cutler's, but Cutler does have a lot more experience as a starting QB, especially in the postseason. This doesn't seem like a move you would make unless you have a roster that you think is capable of making a deep playoff run, and just need an experienced QB to not screw things up in the playoffs. Looking at the Dolphins currently...I don't see anything to generate that level of optimism.

They must be banking on Ajayi tearing through defenses and making it easy for his QB. They must also believe in their defense.

Something else, you've been hating that Packers offense and today I read this:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000825664/article/packers-o-could-be-unstoppable-dalvin-cook-set-for-big-season

Yes, Bucky is biased towards the Packers, but still... you are a hater. You probably think that the Patriots have the Super Bowl in the bag already (and that's probably true), but still... you are a hater.

I don't think I've ever said anything negative about the Packers' offense on here except for a jab about a running back that's no longer with the team. Green Bay's offense is fantastic, and, on paper, it's only gotten better with the addition of Martellus Bennett and another year of experience for Davante Adams. The Packers' defense is what I've gone after, and that's because it was their achilles heel last year and they didn't do much to improve it. A defense that ranked 22nd in yards allowed and 31st in passing yards allowed last year drafted a cornerback in the second round that many considered a questionable pick, did nothing to pursue Stephon Gilmore, and instead went after Davon House (already made my assessment of him clear). It's frustrating to watch even as an outsider because the Packers' have a fantastic offense with an all time great QB in the middle of his prime, but they've put seemingly no effort in to giving them a defense to play with. It's like Ted Thompson only wants to win if his offense has to put up 40 points or more.

I definitely don't think the Patriots have the Super Bowl in the bag. On paper, it looks like they've gotten better, but there's any number of things that could go wrong. Gronk could get injured again, Brady might finally start to regress, an AFC team like Pittsburgh or Oakland could avoid injuries/suspensions and pose a much more serious threat than they did last year, Bill Belichick might decide that just regularly kicking off with a 14 point lead is lame again and decide to go for a triple bounce onside kick off the back goalpost or some other bullshit that motivates the other team into playing well and the Patriots blow a crucial playoff game as a result. The NFL is an unpredictable league, and in a one game playoff system, anything can happen.



MTZehvor said:

I don't think I've ever said anything negative about the Packers' offense on here except for a jab about a running back that's no longer with the team. Green Bay's offense is fantastic, and, on paper, it's only gotten better with the addition of Martellus Bennett and another year of experience for Davante Adams. The Packers' defense is what I've gone after, and that's because it was their achilles heel last year and they didn't do much to improve it. A defense that ranked 22nd in yards allowed and 31st in passing yards allowed last year drafted a cornerback in the second round that many considered a questionable pick, did nothing to pursue Stephon Gilmore, and instead went after Davon House (already made my assessment of him clear). It's frustrating to watch even as an outsider because the Packers' have a fantastic offense with an all time great QB in the middle of his prime, but they've put seemingly no effort in to giving them a defense to play with. It's like Ted Thompson only wants to win if his offense has to put up 40 points or more.

I definitely don't think the Patriots have the Super Bowl in the bag. On paper, it looks like they've gotten better, but there's any number of things that could go wrong. Gronk could get injured again, Brady might finally start to regress, an AFC team like Pittsburgh or Oakland could avoid injuries/suspensions and pose a much more serious threat than they did last year, Bill Belichick might decide that just regularly kicking off with a 14 point lead is lame again and decide to go for a triple bounce onside kick off the back goalpost or some other bullshit that motivates the other team into playing well and the Patriots blow a crucial playoff game as a result. The NFL is an unpredictable league, and in a one game playoff system, anything can happen.

I must have lost track about all the things you ranted about in regards to so many teams. Indeed, you only said that the Packers' plane is safe now.

But you are still a Patriots fan and that makes you an enemy by default.



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RolStoppable said:

I must have lost track about all the things you ranted about in regards to so many teams. Indeed, you only said that the Packers' plane is safe now.

But you are still a Patriots fan and that makes you an enemy by default.

Entirely fair. I still hope that the Patriots and Packers meet up in a Super Bowl some day so we can avenge 31.



Snap judgments from 1 preseason game...

Pats' defensive backups looked absolutely awful, especially the secondary. New England routinely got beat deep by backup Jags receivers, including two long TDs over beleaguered CB Cyrus Jones. New England may have one of the best one-two CB punches in the league this season in Malcolm Butler and Stephon Gilmore, but if either of them has to miss extended time for some reason, we're going to be in trouble.

The competition at wide receiver got a little more interesting with really good games from Austin Carr and Jacob Hollister. Chances of either beating out Amendola for the last WR spot is slim at best, but I have to wonder if Belichick might be willing to bring a 7th WR onto the team. Carr especially looks like a solid option if someone gets injured.

Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brissett both looked decent, though they both had to deal with suboptimal OL play. Garoppolo got a surprising amount of play time. Normally, I'd say that this was an attempt by Belichick to demonstrate that Garoppolo can still play well despite a disappointing training camp, but since his contract is up at the end of the year, that seems counter intuitive. Maybe Belichick feels there's a genuine possibility of Brady falling off this year.

Barely any players who played significant time last season played at all in this game, so unfortunately didn't get a chance to see the newer high profile FAs in action. Hopefully I'll get the chance to complain about them like the spoiled fan I am next week.



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Broncos D looked great, per usual. Offense about as shitty as expected.



Bears may actually have hopes for the quarterback position. Also, I decided to buy this yesterday...



As a Chiefs fan, I'm very interested in seeing Mahomes play tonight and throughout the preseason. I would have preferred they draft Watson instead, but have been hearing impressive reports about Mahomes' abilities.



So if you somehow haven't heard by now, Ezekiel Elliott has been suspended for the first six games of the season. I'd feel worse for the Cowboys, but, y'know...

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In reality, Dallas is in serious trouble all of a sudden. The first six games of the season include home games against the Giants and Packers, as well as trips to Arizona and Denver. Their schedule is already brutal, with 5 more games against teams that made the playoffs last year after that.

That both complicates and simplifies predicting the mess that is the NFC. The Cowboys' chances of grabbing a first round bye have taken a serious hit, but now that middle of the pack that could realistically finish anywhere between 3rd-8th in the conference is even more log jammed.



Looked at schedule and man that is quite a bit of preseason games. Surprised we don't hear more injuries during this time, with the constant playing. All 6 teams playing on the last Sunday also play on the last Thursday. Normal MNF is only 2 teams and they usually don't play on TNF after. Guess the extra day counts.