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Who will win Super Bowl LII?

New England Patriots 7 31.82%
 
Pittsburgh Steelers 1 4.55%
 
Jacksonville Jaguars 3 13.64%
 
Kansas City Chiefs 0 0%
 
Philadelphia Eagles 5 22.73%
 
Minnesota Vikings 3 13.64%
 
Los Angeles Rams 0 0%
 
New Orleans Saints 0 0%
 
Other 1 4.55%
 
Scoreboard 2 9.09%
 
Total:22

Hm, not sure I'll watch the HOF game tomorrow. Preseason games are such a snooze fest but I want to watch the new players play.



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I thought I'd do my bracket predictions during downtime at work today, but damn, it is tough to figure out the NFC. So instead, I decided to just rant about how hard it is to make picks for the NFC.

The Falcons seemed like a good choice for a high seed in the NFC, until I remembered that they play in the NFC South and no one is allowed to repeat as NFC South division champs unless the rest of the division collectively gets drunk on Castrol GTX. Besides that, Atlanta's got themselves embroiled in some slightly sticky contract business after their star RB decided he was worth a lot more because he would've won Super Bowl MVP if Atlanta hadn't choked harder than Brazil in the 2014 World Cup. Guessing all the $2 beers at the Falcon's new stadium made him forget his amazing impression of the Florida State offensive line that kickstarted the biggest collapse in Super Bowl history. Speaking of forgetting things, the team motto certainly isn't going to help them get over it, after all. Beyond that, Atlanta basically lost its entire offensive staff, so let's see how the offense that couldn't organize itself well enough to audible out of shit play calls functions with entirely new leadership. Oh yeah, and the defense probably still sucks when Tom Brady isn't doing his best end of Super Bowl XLIV Peyton Manning impression. Fuck's sake what a bad throw.

Oh yeah, and their new stadium looks like Megatron's butthole, in case you somehow managed to forget that.

Meanwhile, Green Bay's secondary somehow got even worse this offseason, with their best corner probably now being the guy that had to hitchhike to OTAs with fans. Looking forward to Aaron Rodgers having to throw for 2,000 yards each game just to give the Packers a chance. Oh yeah, they lost Eddie Lacy as well, although that probably won't affect much besides the team plane's chances of spontaneously falling out of the sky due to its center of mass suddenly transitioning. I'd write more, but there isn't a lot else to say about Green Bay's offseason. They did NOTHING to fix their defense. I guess Ted Thompson just thinks that having to put up 40+ points to win an NFC Championship is the new normal.

The Seahawks are next up on the list of teams that really should have accomplished more with the talent they have by now, and outside of doing their best impersonation of Hard Knocks, there hasn't been much worth talking about this offseason. Like Green Bay, they have a pressing need (offensive line), but somehow managed to do even worse than the Packers by signing literally one player who the fucking Jaguars called a bust and then pretending he's the best guard in the league. Honestly, Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers should start a support group for QBs who spend like 10 minutes per game running for their lives because their offensive lines offer as much protection as a Takata airbag. They also signed Blair Walsh, presumably as a belated "thank you" for single handily winning a playoff game for them two years back.
  
Dallas should presumably be a contender as well, provided that half their offense isn't suspended. Chances are that Ezekiel Elliot will be suspended by midseason point, if not for sexual misconduct or domestic assault, then for lifting up Rodger Goodell's shirt and motorboating him after scoring a touchdown. Meanwhile, Dallas is right alongside Green Bay in doing fuck all to fix their porous secondary, so I look forward to Aaron Rodgers shredding them for 350 yards and another last second game winning drive in this year's rematch. Also, the Cowboys get the NFC West, so good luck repeating that 13-3 season while dealing with the toughest division in the league and five times the league average in suspensions. And even if they somehow do get through that, Dallas will inevitably choke in the division round of the playoffs again.
  
The Panthers have been a trendy pick to rebound from last season's 16 game Super Bowl hangover, and everyone who thinks so either hasn't been paying good attention to the league this offseason or is still mesmerized by Jerry Richardson's submission for most egotistical statue ever. Sean McDermott left to become the Bills' head coach, meaning the one good unit from last season has lost its coordinator. Replacing him is Steve Wilks, who is best known for going 5-6 as the head coach of Savannah State College and then immediately resigning. Carolina also lost two of its top three receivers and replaced them with a guy that averages 10 catches per season. Oh, and the one receiver they actually extended is a guy that caught two passes last year. Forget the offensive line (which is still full of holes); you could have Dallas' O-Line and Cam still wouldn't be able to find anyone to throw to.
  
The Bucs have gotten some attention and could very well make some noise, provided Jameis Winston doesn't get arrested for stealing more crabs legs or sexually assaulting another woman or fucking joining up with Ganondorf to kidnap Princess Zelda. It's worth noting in the midst of the hype that the Bucs managed to lose last season to the Rams, Saints, and Cardinals (by 33 points). They only wound up in sorta playoff contention because the Seahawks decided to go for "the most penalties in a game" record and only managed to score 3 offensive points that game. The pass defense is still garbage, and having two games apiece against Matt Ryan and Drew Brees, along with games against Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, probably means that ol' Jameis will have to be putting up points in bunches if he wants to avoid taking an automatic 4-6 losses. Maybe DeSean Jackson will help out with that and remember to not drop the ball before the end zone.
  
Who else? Oh, right, the Giants. After getting blown out by the Packers in the playoffs probably kinda sorta because of receivers having some discipline issues, the Giants thought the solution would be to bring in THE receiver with discipline issues. Marshall is so bad, even the guy that fucking asked for prostitutes before a regular season game thought he was a terrible influence. Thankfully, Eli's contract with the devil for unlimited postseason fuckery seems to have finally expired, largely because, as Eli found out, you can throw all the quality passes you want but it won't matter if your receivers drop them instead of making more bullshit helmet catches (yes I'm still bitter). But hey, at least they can beat Dallas.
  
As for the rest of the potential contenders...
The Lions can't make the playoffs two years in a row, and even if they do, we all know they're not getting past the Wild Card round.
The Redskins are 2-11 in their past 13 games against teams that finished the year with 9 or more wins and get 8 teams who had 9 or more wins last season.
The Cardinals have a 37 year old QB, a 33 year old #1 WR, and lost a TON of important defensive players, including Caias Campbell, Tony Jefferson, and DJ Swearinger. Did they do anything to replace them? Well, surprisingly, yes, and with a half decent player too. Only problem is he's a 33 year old safety. I look forward to the AARP taking over the naming rights of Cardinals' stadium.
The conclusion? No one will win the NFC. The AFC Champion will just be declared Super Bowl Champ simultaneously.


I'm definitely changing my bracket before the actual season starts lol, hearing about injuries like every day already



Did the Packers get rid of their CBs from last year? I thought that they would bank on all the injured players being ready to go again this season. Eddie Lacy has had many so-so games, so I am not bothered that he isn't with the Packers anymore.

Not sure if I trust MTZehvor who is a spoiled Patriots fan.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

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RolStoppable said:
Did the Packers get rid of their CBs from last year? I thought that they would bank on all the injured players being ready to go again this season. Eddie Lacy has had many so-so games, so I am not bothered that he isn't with the Packers anymore.

Not sure if I trust MTZehvor who is a spoiled Patriots fan.

Entirely reasonable to not trust me, I'm extremely spoiled and I also don't know what I'm talking about.

The Packers' starting corners at the beginning of training camp were Davon House (who was benched by the Jags last year, though he claims it wasn't because of his play), and third yearer LaDarius Gunter (who has a career total of 12 passes defended, though he did force two fumbles). Backing them up (according to NFL.com and Reddit) are, or were, rookie Kevin King (who got injured two days ago during training camp and hasn't practiced since) and another third year player in Quinten Rollins (who has 14 passes defended over his entire career and suffered a concussion last year after plowing head first into the ground against the Lions last year).

Sam Shields and Micah Hyde are the notable secondary names gone, although Shields spent virtually the entirety of last year on IR. The biggest problem for Green Bay is that there just isn't a lot of experience at cornerback, or in the secondary as a whole. Safety is a bit better than CB; Ha Ha Clinton Dix and Morgan Burnett are the two presumed starting safeties, who are coming into their fourth and seventh years as starters respectively. As far as corner goes, though, your choices are two third year players, a second year player, a rookie, or a guy that the Jags didn't want back.



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MTZehvor said:

Entirely reasonable to not trust me, I'm extremely spoiled and I also don't know what I'm talking about.

The Packers' starting corners at the beginning of training camp were Davon House (who was benched by the Jags last year, though he claims it wasn't because of his play), and third yearer LaDarius Gunter (who has a career total of 12 passes defended, though he did force two fumbles). Backing them up (according to NFL.com and Reddit) are, or were, rookie Kevin King (who got injured two days ago during training camp and hasn't practiced since) and another third year player in Quinten Rollins (who has 14 passes defended over his entire career and suffered a concussion last year after plowing head first into the ground against the Lions last year).

Sam Shields and Micah Hyde are the notable secondary names gone, although Shields spent virtually the entirety of last year on IR. The biggest problem for Green Bay is that there just isn't a lot of experience at cornerback, or in the secondary as a whole. Safety is a bit better than CB; Ha Ha Clinton Dix and Morgan Burnett are the two presumed starting safeties, who are coming into their fourth and seventh years as starters respectively. As far as corner goes, though, your choices are two third year players, a second year player, a rookie, or a guy that the Jags didn't want back.

Shields and Hyde being gone is a downer. I guess I can only hope that the two third year players at CB develop like Clinton-Dix who became a really solid player after (unsurprisingly) making mistakes in his rookie year.

Oh well, I certainly didn't have hopes that Green Bay would have a great defense this year, so I am only mildly disappointed. As long as the offense doesn't suffer injuries, it should at least be entertaining to watch the Packers this year.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

RolStoppable said:
Did the Packers get rid of their CBs from last year? I thought that they would bank on all the injured players being ready to go again this season. Eddie Lacy has had many so-so games, so I am not bothered that he isn't with the Packers anymore.

Not sure if I trust MTZehvor who is a spoiled Patriots fan.

You will probably be bothered if he has a good year with the Seahawks!😜



gergroy said:
RolStoppable said:
Did the Packers get rid of their CBs from last year? I thought that they would bank on all the injured players being ready to go again this season. Eddie Lacy has had many so-so games, so I am not bothered that he isn't with the Packers anymore.

Not sure if I trust MTZehvor who is a spoiled Patriots fan.

You will probably be bothered if he has a good year with the Seahawks!😜

Really, Lacy is with the Seahawks now? The team with the dysfunctional O-line that led to injuries of QBs and RBs alike?



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

RolStoppable said:
gergroy said:

You will probably be bothered if he has a good year with the Seahawks!😜

Really, Lacy is with the Seahawks now? The team with the dysfunctional O-line that led to injuries of QBs and RBs alike?

Yep... but maybe they will magically be good this year!🙏



Welp, as a result of Ryan Tannehill's knee injury, Jay Cutler has signed a one year deal with the Dolphins. This seems to indicate a couple of things.

#1: Tannehill is likely out for a significant period of time. We still don't have any official word on what the injury is (other than it's to his knee), but $10 million isn't an amount teams typically throw around for someone they aren't even sure will play.

#2: Someone influential on the Dolphins, be it Adam Gase, Chris Grier, or perhaps even Stephen Ross, thinks Miami is capable of competing for a Super Bowl now. Matt Moore's stats aren't significantly worse than Cutler's, but Cutler does have a lot more experience as a starting QB, especially in the postseason. This doesn't seem like a move you would make unless you have a roster that you think is capable of making a deep playoff run, and just need an experienced QB to not screw things up in the playoffs. Looking at the Dolphins currently...I don't see anything to generate that level of optimism.