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Dark_Lord_2008 on 13 July 2017

Most console sales from now on will be PS4. I am surprised the Xbox One is selling 75,000+ consoles per week, when the PS4 sells over 300+ console sales. Already a 30 million sales gap between PS4 and XBox One and there will be a 40 million sales gap by the end of the year.



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ice on 13 July 2017

The low effort is showing up in sales.



KiigelHeart on 13 July 2017

There hasn't been much going on for Xbox this year. Last holiday season it sold well and there was some excellent game releases. I'm excited to see what kind of effect the X will have on sales. I'll be buing one for sure.



fedfed on 13 July 2017

poor XB



Switch!!!

Pemalite on 13 July 2017
KiigelHeart said:
There hasn't been much going on for Xbox this year. Last holiday season it sold well and there was some excellent game releases. I'm excited to see what kind of effect the X will have on sales. I'll be buing one for sure.

The Xbox One X should result in an uptick in sales for the short term.
However, if it is anything like the Playstation 4 Pro, then expect 1 in 5 consoles to be the Xbox One X. Maybe even 1 in 6/7 as it's priced higher.

DialgaMarine said:

 Literally, if you own a decent PC, all bets are off. The only reason to own a XB1 at that point is if you're simply infatuated with the logo. :/

Disagree.
Not everyone actually cares about exclusives.

caffeinade said:

Why would you get an Xbox One over a PS4, you get less games, and the games you do get (multiplats) are objectively worse on that system.

That is what the Xbox One X intends to rectify. It will be the best place for multiplats outside of a PC.

Microsoft does need to fix it's exclusive dilemma, having another big hitter like Halo 3 which was a console seller would help a crap ton too.




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Azzanation on 13 July 2017

Maybe because MS isnt given away actual figures for there console sales. This is all speculation and assumptions at this point.



Aeolus451 on 13 July 2017
zorg1000 said:
Aeolus451 said:

The individual games sell better because there's relatively no third party games as competition and those games are tailored made for those fans. Those fans bought the console for those games.

When a console has a lot of games, the sales are spread out over all those games instead of being concentrated sales on fewer games. 

Please explain to me how Nintendo games still dominated on NES/SNES back when they had the best 3rd party support?

Because ninty fans buy nintendo console to play nintendo games and not third party games but some do.  Simple enough for ya.



barneystinson69 on 13 July 2017
NawaiNey said:
Pemalite said:
I just want to be able to pre-order the Xbox One X already.

I still think the brand has some legs left in it still, so 50 million is entirely possible by the end of the generation, but that success is very much going to be driven by Scorpio and possible future games, Microsoft needs another big Halo 3 console pushing success.

IDK man, 50 million is a tall order. 

Let's look at some data. XB1 had sold 19 million units by the end of 2015. This was found out by subtracting the number Sony gave for PS4 at the end of 2015 from the number EA gave for both consoles at the end of 2015.

https://www.theverge.com/2016/1/29/10868370/microsoft-xbox-one-sales-19-million-ea

Now at the end of 2016 using the same method of subtracting the 53.4 million units Sony gave for PS4 from the 79 million figure EA provided for PS4+XB1, we know that it had sold 25.6 million units.

http://www.dualshockers.com/ps4-sells-6-2-million-units-customers-2016-holiday-season-reaches-53-4-million-units-sold/

http://www.dualshockers.com/current-generation-consoles-will-reach-105-million-units-sold-2017-according-electronic-arts/

So XB1 sold 6.6 million units in 2016 for the entire year, and it looks like they'll be down quite a bit this year judging by how it's selling this year so far. XB1X won't do much for the numbers, it's a niche product. I suspect it'll sell around 5-5.5 million units this year which will put it at around 31 million by the end of 2017.

PS5 should be out by 2019, or 2020 at the latest, so in 2018 and 2019, I can't see XB1 selling more than 8 million total. They have absolutely no system sellers in the works. 40 million is the optimistic figure we can expect for it right now.

How exactly is this possible? The XB1 sold 3 million in its first year, and around 8 million in its second and third year (that gets it to 19 million). Based on NPD and UK sales figures which show the XB1 doing slightly better or worse/flat yoy, so I seriously doubt the Xbox One declined 25% yoy WW. Maybe 7.5 million, but anything below that seems like its too low.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

zorg1000 on 13 July 2017
Aeolus451 said:
zorg1000 said:

Please explain to me how Nintendo games still dominated on NES/SNES back when they had the best 3rd party support?

Because ninty fans buy nintendo console to play nintendo games and not third party games but some do.  Simple enough for ya.

so you have been contradicting yourself this whole time?



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Aeolus451 on 13 July 2017
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Aeolus451 said:

You call my points bad but they went over your head, apparently. So please try to reread what I wrote and pay special attention to those numbers. 

I'll give a hint though. The software sales numbers in connection with the total games on each console explains why there's more sales on individual games on one console and not the other. 

 

I didn't call you butthurt or imply it but you're overreacting to me saying that nintendo tailors towards a niche market because I didn't say it in the way you took it (nintendo games are niche). I'll explain it to you so it's crystal clear hopefully. 

"Nintendo's first party is tailored towards a niche part of the market and they absolutely love those games but the rest of the market does not"

What was I calling niche? Games or people?

 

Hmmm perhaps you see why I said don't get triggered by the word "niche". You leaped right on "niche" and went with it in a way you wanted it to. If you mistook just that little part, what else did you not get? 

Its funny you say im "over my head" when you literally used niche as an excuse for why Nintendo could never beat Sony Ip wise.. but its even FUNNIER that i literally spent a paragraph or more explaining how high Nintendo software sales are not tied to limited games and yet those points went over your head. You essentially read half a comment and then accused me of focusing on one linear element. Very ironic. 

 

That laugh gif seems more appropriate for you. I spent a lot of sentences disproving your bad wording and your poor argument and then you ignore any criticism of your argument and then went "lololol you mistook one part going too farz lolz". 

 

Again, Nintendo exclusives do not compete with almost any other game series even if they were on the same platform. People buy Mario Kart because its the best kart racer and because it stands out. Third party support wouldnt slump sales of first party. I said all this already though. This is getting to over the top levels of ignorance especially with the lack of self awareness at the gif. Whatevs. Again though, I dont care about sales as much as the fact that you can argue for Nintendo having the better IPs. Its not "inarguable" , both companies are very well respected. 

ugh... You didn't reread my post did you? Oh well. The majority of your rant was you trying to disprove something you misunderstood (nintendo games not being niche) so it's rather pointless to address any of it.  You're the one that chose to "spent alot of sentences" over your misundestanding. That's on you, bud. Since you're just getting more worked up over this and the discussion is devolving, I'm done.