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Areym on 14 June 2017

Shocking. I think Sony and MS were tied at average but the people have spoken.



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Dallinor on 14 June 2017
LudicrousSpeed said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

You should see YouTube. Everyone fell for Microsofts deception with their wording. There's only a couple of aaa exclusives coming to Microsoft this year. Even gamespot called Phil spencer out in it, he clarified it and admitted they need to work on heir first party.

They had a great showing of games but 90 percent of those games are coming to PlayStation and many were none the wiser.

Deception LOL

They had exclusive clearly listed for their actual exclusive games. And console launch exclusive for everything else. YouTube is a terrible reference for anything. You can find thousands of people in YouTube who believe Sandy Hook was a hoax or that the Earth is flat. In the end, who cares. There was nothing deceptive about calling something launch exclusive. It literally means exclusive for the games launch.

Is Nintendos spotlight technically a conference? Otherwise I don't see how the answer is anything but MS. 

What else would you call it?

Muddying the waters? A milder form of essentially the same thing? An announcer booming "exclusive" each time, as various messages of the exclusive state of the game flashed over the screen at the start of each video. 

Just PR shenanigans really with the deliberate goal of deflecting from the fact there was very real exclusive material. Picked up very fast by commenters here, and all across the streams.



 

LudicrousSpeed on 14 June 2017

I guess you could call it deceptive to anyone who is blind and couldn't see "console launch exclusive" in giant letters on the screen :)



Flilix on 14 June 2017
jason1637 said:
Flilix said:

Does this guy post a lot of XBox related stuff? Because these polls have slightly different results:

http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2017/06/14/who-won-e3-2017/

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/06/who-won-e3-2017/

http://www.strawpoll.me/13181935/r

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=229428

No hes more of a Sony guy.

Also the amount of people voted in Geoff's poll is more than all those polls you showed combined.

I know, but these were the first 3 sources when I googled it.

If you would make a poll on EA their website, it would probably say that EA has won. So I'd say that the number of polls on different websites is more important than the number of voters.
That's why I was asking if he's a Microsoft guy, because otherwise the results seem kind of odd. I mean, almost everywhere on the internet people seem to think that Sony's presentation was at least as good as Microsoft's.



DonFerrari on 14 June 2017

A conference that talked about basically no exclusives won even against Nintendo, yeah that will totally make X1 outsell PS4 2:1 like the poll and not the other way around when we are seeing real world.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari on 14 June 2017
LudicrousSpeed said:
I guess you could call it deceptive to anyone who is blind and couldn't see "console launch exclusive" in giant letters on the screen :)

Because the public surely knows the difference between the 10 different exclusive terms MS uses... IGN stream there were a lot of uninformed folks thinking that all that was only ever going to show on Xbox.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Vasto on 14 June 2017

I agree with the Poll. 



Dallinor on 14 June 2017
LudicrousSpeed said:
I guess you could call it deceptive to anyone who is blind and couldn't see "console launch exclusive" in giant letters on the screen :)

By saying that you're actually doing a disservice to the ingenuity of the very people you're defending.



 

LudicrousSpeed on 14 June 2017

Not defending anyone, just laughing at deception :)



Dallinor on 14 June 2017
LudicrousSpeed said:
Not defending anyone, just laughing at deception :)

Which is to deceive, ie. give someone a mistaken impression by design.

In that case, why was the media asking Phil Spencer to clarify the meaning of the new terminology? If it was readily apparent, understandable and served no other purpose?

You see, it's either their choice of wording and presentation was really poor and required further explanation, or it was deliberate and served an objective.

Even the media was having difficulty.