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Machiavellian on 14 June 2017
potato_hamster said:
Machiavellian said:

How many people actually hook up their PC to their TV.  I have a gaming PC but I have absolutly no wish to put it in my living room hooked up to my PC.  If anything that would be the last thing I would do because i use it for work as well.  So when people say, why would I invest in a 500 xbox my reason is because my PC is regulated as a PC not a home entertaiment system.

Not to derail, but as a side note, they sell these at Walmart and Best Buy and Gamestop and Amazon...

http://store.steampowered.com/app/353380/Steam_Link/

You can even use PS4 and XB1 controllers with it, as well as keyboard and mouse, and it works pretty well.

Actually I have looked into the Stam link but there are a few things that is definitly needed for this to work.  You definitely need a wired connection.  Currently this is not going to happen in my home.  I use to have a wired connection but wife complained to much so I removed them.  You need to make sure your router is compatible.  If not you will get all kinds of crazy lag.  I am still looking at the steam link and once wireless works without issues, I will pull the string.



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Machiavellian on 14 June 2017
Alby_da_Wolf said:
It's "console exclusive" and "MS exclusive". To be totally exclusive it must be on just one platform. Anyhow it's clear that being console exclusive and MS exclusive is more than just console exclusive for MS if we consider its overall corporate purposes and not just its XB division's ones. But it's still less than total exclusive if we consider profits and XB division purposes, as PC version sales will bring neither royalties nor console HW sales.

I believe Phil is in charge of both PC and Xbox games division.  Meaning sales in the PC space helps the whole department not jut the Xbox.



Mafioso on 14 June 2017

Considering Steam is running on Windows 99.5% for most PC gamers, yeah its pretty much Microsoft exclusive for all intents and purposes.

I just see Windows as Microsoft's open platform, and Steam is a direct benificiary of its install base. The Linux/Steam OS  and Apple premise for PC gaming is a dead one.

I can play Nier Automata on my Windows PC. Not on Linux or Mac....or even SteamOS.



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Random_Matt on 14 June 2017

Damage controlling for lack of Xbox exclusives.



Neodegenerate on 14 June 2017
Mafioso said:

Considering Steam is running on Windows 99.5% for most PC gamers, yeah its pretty much Microsoft exclusive for all intents and purposes.
I just see Windows as Microsoft's open platform, and Steam is a direct benificiary of its install base. The Linux/Steam OS  and Apple premise for PC gaming is a dead one.

I can play Nier Automata on my Windows PC. Not on Linux or Mac....or even SteamOS.

Even though when a game not published by Microsoft is sold on Steam Microsoft gets 0 dollars from the transaction?  That's not MS exclusive to me at all.



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Alby_da_Wolf on 14 June 2017
Machiavellian said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
It's "console exclusive" and "MS exclusive". To be totally exclusive it must be on just one platform. Anyhow it's clear that being console exclusive and MS exclusive is more than just console exclusive for MS if we consider its overall corporate purposes and not just its XB division's ones. But it's still less than total exclusive if we consider profits and XB division purposes, as PC version sales will bring neither royalties nor console HW sales.

I believe Phil is in charge of both PC and Xbox games division.  Meaning sales in the PC space helps the whole department not jut the Xbox.

Yes, I took that into account in what I wrote.



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Cerebralbore101 on 14 June 2017
LivingMetal said:

Let's face it.  We have three major competitors, and they all want our money.  And what makes one stand out from the rest... EXCLUSIVES!  If a title is released on both the Xbox One and the PC, then it's exclusive to Microsoft.  So Microsoft reaps the benefit whether the title is bought on the One or a Window based PC.  The same with Sony with Persona 5 being released on the PS4 and the PS3.  And we've had titles to be released on both the PS4 and the PC.  If one can make the argument that "Why do I need an Xbox One when I can play it on the PC?", why can't the same be argued against the PS4 when that game is also on the PC?  The exclusivity, I think, refers more to the competing company rather than the hardware itself.

That's fine. There are plenty of games that are on PS4/PC, but not on Xbox. There are also a lot of games that come to Xbox/PS4, but don't come to PC. 

We need a new name for these types of games. How about semi-exclusives?

The problem with Xbox is that it has borderline zero exclusives that do not come to PC. With PS4 there are tons of games that are not on PC. That's why nobody says "Why get a PS4, when I can just get a PC to play all the same games?"



Neodegenerate on 14 June 2017
Cerebralbore101 said:
LivingMetal said:

Let's face it.  We have three major competitors, and they all want our money.  And what makes one stand out from the rest... EXCLUSIVES!  If a title is released on both the Xbox One and the PC, then it's exclusive to Microsoft.  So Microsoft reaps the benefit whether the title is bought on the One or a Window based PC.  The same with Sony with Persona 5 being released on the PS4 and the PS3.  And we've had titles to be released on both the PS4 and the PC.  If one can make the argument that "Why do I need an Xbox One when I can play it on the PC?", why can't the same be argued against the PS4 when that game is also on the PC?  The exclusivity, I think, refers more to the competing company rather than the hardware itself.

That's fine. There are plenty of games that are on PS4/PC, but not on Xbox. There are also a lot of games that come to Xbox/PS4, but don't come to PC. 

We need a new name for these types of games. How about semi-exclusives?

The problem with Xbox is that it has borderline zero exclusives that do not come to PC. With PS4 there are tons of games that are not on PC. That's why nobody says "Why get a PS4, when I can just get a PC to play all the same games?"

At this point with their Play Anywhere campaign it is transforming into a literal zero exclusives.



Cerebralbore101 on 14 June 2017
Neodegenerate said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

That's fine. There are plenty of games that are on PS4/PC, but not on Xbox. There are also a lot of games that come to Xbox/PS4, but don't come to PC. 

We need a new name for these types of games. How about semi-exclusives?

The problem with Xbox is that it has borderline zero exclusives that do not come to PC. With PS4 there are tons of games that are not on PC. That's why nobody says "Why get a PS4, when I can just get a PC to play all the same games?"

At this point with their Play Anywhere campaign it is transforming into a literal zero exclusives.

IKR? I only said borderline zero exclusives, because I wanted to shield myself from anybody bringing up the one or two possible games that are 100% Xbox exclusive. 



Mafioso on 14 June 2017
Neodegenerate said:
Mafioso said:

Considering Steam is running on Windows 99.5% for most PC gamers, yeah its pretty much Microsoft exclusive for all intents and purposes.
I just see Windows as Microsoft's open platform, and Steam is a direct benificiary of its install base. The Linux/Steam OS  and Apple premise for PC gaming is a dead one.

I can play Nier Automata on my Windows PC. Not on Linux or Mac....or even SteamOS.

Even though when a game not published by Microsoft is sold on Steam Microsoft gets 0 dollars from the transaction?  That's not MS exclusive to me at all.

What does that have do with the fact that a Microsoft platform is required to access such Steam content?



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