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Mr Puggsly on 03 June 2017
jonathanalis said:
where is my 480p switch version?

If Switch owners are lucky they will get a port... of Tekken Advance via Virtual Console.



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Heavenly_King on 03 June 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
Radek said:
Xbox may have slightly lower input lag, but it runs in 720p, has cut-down several graphical details, screen tearing, double buffer vsync, 40 second loading times and smaller player-base, so it's really not recommended if you have both consoles.

I still want it on Xbox, but after price cuts and hopefully updates fix some problems. Who knows, could be the best version when Scorpio releases as well at a glorious 1440p.

For a fighting game, its amazing how hard its pushing these consoles.

I dont know if amazing is the right word.    When an open world RPG (Witcher 3) game looks better graphically than a game that has ONLY 2 characters on screen.....Something is really bad with that fighting game.

I remember the PS2 era, and Tekken 5 looked better than any other game around when it was released.  I wonder why cant that be the same scenario this generation.    Weird stuff.



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Pemalite on 03 June 2017
Radek said:

I don't quite follow your logic.

Even if you ignore all the graphics, resolution things I mentioned you are still buying the version that will die out the quickest and which already has the smallest player-base.

Also why would 1 frame input lag more matter if there's no crossplay? You will be put against opponents on the same platform as yourself...

To be fair. Not everyone cares about online play with their fighting games though.
The Xbox One still has the best fighting game of the generation anyway.

SvennoJ said:

Now 1440p is glorious? Is that sarcasm lol.

It would probably be checkerboard 1440p as well. If ps4 pro only manages to go up 1.56x the pixels with a 2.3x faster gpu, how is Scorpio going to push 4x as many pixels with 4.6x faster gpu while also putting all the effects back on? What's wrong with this game engine to scale so horribly.


Is this a sign of things to come. PS4 pro for the 1080p version, Scorpio slightly above, ps4 slightly below, xbox one 720p, no Switch version.

Resolution increases does not always have a linear relationship with a platforms horsepower.
Once you hit a bottleneck, it destroys any kind linearity.

The Playstation 4's 1536x864 is certainly a strange rendering resolution though. Certainly not a game changer over the Xbox One's 1280x720.


Radek said:

He's also saying Scorpio is so efficient that it's 6 Tflops match or exceed GTX 1080's 9 Tflops rofl.

Clearly he doesn't understand what a flop is or what it does. You should go educate him on the topic.




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Darc Requiem on 03 June 2017
Radek said:
Xbox may have slightly lower input lag, but it runs in 720p, has cut-down several graphical details, screen tearing, double buffer vsync, 40 second loading times and smaller player-base, so it's really not recommended if you have both consoles.

Disabling V-Sync lowers input lag. The input lag advantage on Xbox One is mostly likely do to it dropping V-Sync under load to maintian 60fps.



Pemalite on 03 June 2017
Radek said:
Pemalite said:

Clearly he doesn't understand what a flop is or what it does. You should go educate him on the topic.

I don't know that much myself, but you do know a lot.

One thing I do know is GTX 1080 is more powerful than Scorpio, also this powerful card deserves R5, i5 or R7, i7 processor.

I try to game at 1620p, 1800p and 2160p 30 fps but I always come back to 60 fps @ 1080p or 1440p.

The Geforce GTX 1080 soundly obliterates all of AMD's current GPU lineup. Without question.
A console that is using a GPU based on one of AMD's current GPU's isn't going to magically change that.

As for resolutions and framerate, for me it depends on the game. If it's a game with a fair bit of motion blur, non-twitch actions, then 30fps is fine... I prefer to push a higher resolution in those instances... Perfect example of this is Elder Scrolls. Good excuse to push the mods in my opinion!

If it's a twitch FPS shooter like Overwatch, Doom, Unreal Tournament, Call of Duty, Counterstrike etc'. 60fps is a must.

And it is a good thing they made a similar decision with Tekken 7. Sacrifice resolution to maintain 60fps.
I'm sure any performance differences on the Playstation 4 in regards to input lag will be ironed out in time.




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malistix1985 on 03 June 2017
Radek said:
Pemalite said:

Clearly he doesn't understand what a flop is or what it does. You should go educate him on the topic.

I don't know that much myself, but you do know a lot.

One thing I do know is GTX 1080 is more powerful than Scorpio, also this powerful card deserves R5, i5 or R7, i7 processor.

I try to game at 1620p, 1800p and 2160p 30 fps but I always come back to 60 fps @ 1080p or 1440p.

Ofcource a 1080gtx is way more powerfull but if you play ona console and not a pc and want the game on a console and not a pc you should could pick it up for Xbox if you are planning to buy it on Scorpio.

Not just is the PC version better its also MUCH cheaper search for any cd key website and you will find the game for around 35 euro's, if you want the biggest community you should buy it on PS4 because more people OWN a ps4.

But stating a 1080gtx is more powerfull seems really obvious since the Xbox and PS4 consoles are made by AMD and the most powerfull graphics card AMD is making it proberbly the scorpio card since it has a better bus speed and around the same Tflops as the RX 580 which is on-par with the GTX 1060 so yeah until a console with full "Vega" tech or a console based on Nvidia arrives that isn't the switch any high end Nvidia card will completely rush the consoles.




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LipeJJ on 04 June 2017

Wow, didn't expect that. Tekken 7 looks good, but not that good. .-. Maybe it's the artstyle that puts me off, I don't know.



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Darc Requiem on 04 June 2017

Yeah the Jaguar cores will bottleneck the Scorpio. The Destiny devs flat out stated that the reason the PS4 Pro isn't running Destiny 2 at 60fps is the CPU.



Goodnightmoon on 04 June 2017

 

LipeJJ said:
Wow, didn't expect that. Tekken 7 looks good, but not that good. .-. Maybe it's the artstyle that puts me off, I don't know.

The artstyle is really off-putting, there is something wrong with it



LipeJJ on 04 June 2017
Goodnightmoon said:

 

LipeJJ said:
Wow, didn't expect that. Tekken 7 looks good, but not that good. .-. Maybe it's the artstyle that puts me off, I don't know.

The artstyle is really off-putting, there is something wrong with it

Yeah, I mean... it looks weird together. Feels like some stuff don't belong on the same world. Not to mention some weird character designs. o.o



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