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Goatseye said:
Two hours ago the FBI raided a political firm in Annapolis, Maryland by the name of Strategic Campaign Group. Palmer Report’s own research team has since been able to determine that the firm in question has ties to Trump campaign advisers Paul Manafort and Roger Stone (link). But it turns out the firm also has ties to Donald Trump’s Taj Mahal casino – which has suddenly come into focus this month for its past federal penalties for money laundering.

https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/taj-annapolis-fbi/2759/
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

The article admits that they made up the "ties":

There is no guarantee that the FBI’s raid of Strategic Campaign Group today is due to its connections to Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.

An (false) accusation without evidence damages the accuser, not the accused.



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numberwang said:
Goatseye said:
Two hours ago the FBI raided a political firm in Annapolis, Maryland by the name of Strategic Campaign Group. Palmer Report’s own research team has since been able to determine that the firm in question has ties to Trump campaign advisers Paul Manafort and Roger Stone (link). But it turns out the firm also has ties to Donald Trump’s Taj Mahal casino – which has suddenly come into focus this month for its past federal penalties for money laundering.

https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/taj-annapolis-fbi/2759/
https://www.fincen.gov/news/news-releases/fincen-fines-trump-taj-mahal-casino-resort-10-million-significant-and-long

The article admits that they made up the "ties":

There is no guarantee that the FBI’s raid of Strategic Campaign Group today is due to its connections to Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.

An (false) accusation without evidence damages the accuser, not the accused.

How does that indicate they made up the "ties"? That simply states that those ties are not necessarily why the FBI raided the firm, which is a pretty reasonable statement to toss out there when you don't have confirmation from the FBI one way or the other.  



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You probably gonna hear more about Paul Manafort in the coming months. I believe congress is gonna serve a subpoena to his crooked ass. He used to be a lobbyist for ex-Ukraine president Yanukovich, a Putin puppet.
And coincidentally, he used to live in Trump tower in New York.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/04/07/from-ukraine-to-trump-tower-paul-manafort-unafraid-to-take-on-controversial-jobs/



Torillian said:
numberwang said:

The article admits that they made up the "ties":

There is no guarantee that the FBI’s raid of Strategic Campaign Group today is due to its connections to Paul Manafort and Roger Stone.

An (false) accusation without evidence damages the accuser, not the accused.

How does that indicate they made up the "ties"? That simply states that those ties are not necessarily why the FBI raided the firm, which is a pretty reasonable statement to toss out there when you don't have confirmation from the FBI one way or the other.  

Can you state the specific crime that Trump has commited?



Goatseye said:
You probably gonna hear more about Paul Manafort in the coming months. I believe congress is gonna serve a subpoena to his crooked ass. He used to be a lobbyist for ex-Ukraine president Yanukovich, a Putin puppet.
And coincidentally, he used to live in Trump tower in New York.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/04/07/from-ukraine-to-trump-tower-paul-manafort-unafraid-to-take-on-controversial-jobs/

What is the crime that has occurred?



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numberwang said:
Torillian said:

How does that indicate they made up the "ties"? That simply states that those ties are not necessarily why the FBI raided the firm, which is a pretty reasonable statement to toss out there when you don't have confirmation from the FBI one way or the other.  

Can you state the specific crime that Trump has commited?

Don't know, not debating that. I'm debating with you about the idea that the quote you posted was indicitive that the ties between the firm and Paul Manafort were made up. Wanna just say you were wrong or actually say something relevant? 



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numberwang said:
Torillian said:

How does that indicate they made up the "ties"? That simply states that those ties are not necessarily why the FBI raided the firm, which is a pretty reasonable statement to toss out there when you don't have confirmation from the FBI one way or the other.  

Can you state the specific crime that Trump has commited?

Can you state how your post is related to his post? He simply pointed out a flaw in your argumentation, nothing else.



people are still so salty that hillary lost



NATO said:
people are still so salty that hillary lost

I don't think there's a lot of people here that are disappointed for her loss. I think more people are unhappy about Trump's victory. None of this would be happening if the republicans had a better candidate that won. People would be unhappy, sure, but you wouldn't hear about it too much.



Zkuq said:
NATO said:
people are still so salty that hillary lost

I don't think there's a lot of people here that are disappointed for her loss. I think more people are unhappy about Trump's victory. None of this would be happening if the republicans had a better candidate that won. People would be unhappy, sure, but you wouldn't hear about it too much.

their own damn fault for sitting by and letting the DNC rig it to push hillary through when sanders was clearly the more desirable candidate.