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axumblade said:
Slarvax said:

Yep. Though it's kind of a tough call, seeing as Skyrim is a 6 year old game. I have no doubt in my mind it well sell well (BotW owners will more than likely purchase Skyrim), but can it convince 3rd parties to develop exclusives or downgraded ports to a much weaker system?

The other test lies on FIFA, and that's more important than Skyrim when it comes to continuos support (we get games like Skyrim once a decade, but the FIFAs, CoDs and Assassins Creed come yearly and still sell a alot).

Sadly, I don't have enough trust in EA to think they won't mess up Fifa in some way. 

To be honest I don't really even care if FIFA 18 on Switch isn't feature for feature on par with the PS4/XB1 versions. As long as it's a solid soccer sim at least on par with FIFA 17 but with updated rosters, that's fine. 

You can't exactly play console perfect FIFA on the go anywhere else. 

Ultra SF2 outselling SFV would be the funniest thing in the world though. 

It's not even like Konami put a whole lot of effort into this Bomberman R game, lol, I guess kudos to them for at least patching in 60 fps. 



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Soundwave said:
axumblade said:

Sadly, I don't have enough trust in EA to think they won't mess up Fifa in some way. 

To be honest I don't really even care if FIFA 18 on Switch isn't feature for feature on par with the PS4/XB1 versions. As long as it's a solid soccer sim at least on par with FIFA 17 but with updated rosters, that's fine. 

 

I'm assuming they'll just take the PS3/360 version (which I can assume will be released this year on those systems) and maybe enhance it a little if at all.



If it was $29.99 I would consider getting. If it were $19.99 it would be right behind Shovel Knight Treasure Trove on games getting soon.

At $49.99, I will be just enjoying its sales success as a potential 3rd party notch for future 3rd parties.



With the winding down of the Vita and the relative popularity of the Switch (and its handheld mode) in Japan it seems Japanese devs are already interested in the platform.

As for western 3rd parties though, I really think the performance of games like Skyrim, Fifa, NBA2K, and that Rabbids crossover, along with sales of the console itself over the coming year, will determine whether or not they back it. They're probably still waiting to see if more conventional gamers who are interested in such games have bought into the Switch, or if there's no market for it.



I doubt it. I suspect its relatively high sales reflect the lack of games available at the Switch's launch - had it released a year later, I suspect sales would have been quite a bit lower, despite a much higher userbase.



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Also goes to show though, a MGSV port early in the Switch cycle might've even hit 1 million who knows. Quite a few companies missed out. 



KrspaceT said:

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/268019/super-bomberman-r-ships-over-500000-units-1-2-switch-on-track-for-1-million/

 

If it ships out 500,000 more, or digital turns out to bridge the gap and that becomes known....would that be something have a positive effect on the third parties?

 

Would it be enough to make third parties feel like they are viable on the Switch, or would Bomberman's lack of guns and generic male protagonists make Bomberman not count

Im sure it helps, but I don't think Bomberman alone is something companies are looking at.

"MR PRESIDENT. WE MUST MAKE GAMES ON NINTENDO SWITCH. BOMBERMAN SOLD HALF A MILLION." Sadly, I don't think Board meetings will be talking too much about gold old Bomberman. 

What I think is going to have the most impact is 1)System sales and 2)How easy it is to develop/port and 3) How well they think their games will do. The first two are standard for any console to get some kind of success with developers. The third is a little tricky. Some genres will get brought over and other wont. The Wii had plenty of party style games because those sold. It didn't get many shooters because they didn't sell. It's also why XBox never had a problem getting shooters. 

The idea that Nintendo doesn't get third party support was, partly, born out of the Wii era. The Wii was so different that developers didn't want to make games (even refusing to quit if they had to work on a Wii game). But Nintendo has often gotten third party suppose. The SNES always had games. Nintendo's handhelds got lots of third party support. The DS and 3DS and full of Japanese games.  Heck, even the Gamecube had third party support. So the conventional wisdom of "Nintendo doesn't get third party suppose" is looking at a limited view of history.

Where I see Bomberman affecting is Konami. It will reassure them that their old games can still sell well. Maybe we'll get Contra or Castlevania. I think it's a real possibility now. 



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Darwinianevolution said:
If a company as reviled as Konami has been the last couple of years can sell a million units on the Switch when it has an userbase smaller than 10m, I'd say that's a fantastic message for 3rd parties. Then again, that might be limited only to A-AA games and japanes devs, I don't think the big western studios care about Bomberman sales anyway.

The fact that bomberman is a beloved (albeit B-list) videogame franchise and the fact that it was really the only other game to buy other than Zelda contributed to this success.

I bet 99% of Switch buyers have no opinion on Konami other than it's long-Standing consistency in making great games. Konami is only 'reviled' by select members of the gaming community because they parted ways with a ( difficult/genius ) game director.



I do not think Skyrim or Bomberman will be tells for the fate of third-party titles on Switch. As I keep saying, it all comes down to business. Right now, the business is good and that means companies are slowly, and a little more quietly (Capcom and SquareEnix for example) coming in with third-party support. With dev kits so cheap and Unreal Engine being extremely easy to develop on, it becomes a matter of if the ends justify the means and right now, it looks like they do. Even though games are coming out at ten dollars more in some cases, the games are still selling well enough to make keep companies interested in Switch. I do not believe the big, Western third-party developers are going to do much for Switch - and I am OK with that - but if they do make solid efforts, I hope the community really reaches out with their wallet to encourage more.

I remember Silent Hill: Shattered Memories being a great title on Wii and I tried to encourage everyone to buy it but people were stuck in their, "Wii only has shovelware" ways and great titles like that one got shafted. The community was slipping and I hope this generation shows a shift in that trend.



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