Well, the mods re-opened the thread on the condition that it doesn't turn into a shitstorm, so as long as it doesn't turn into that we're fine!

Actually did a quick Google search and found this.

https://youtu.be/5yJUNyOS95o

And yeah Sony makes great consoles but a consoles greatness is determined by games so they can still make great games on PC.

And some of those pieces can be more expensive than the console itself... my freaking graphics card was more expensive than my PS4.

First part of your post is a very good point, sadly you finished with an edgy console war phrase.

Just bought a PS4 slim with Uncharted 4 for 250$, can't build a PC with that amount of cash.

Sony is great for people who want to play multiplats plus exclusives at a low price entry, they always have the best bang for buck ratio.

Also PC isn't really an option for us physical collectors.

Not for a person like me who prefers handhelds, and Nintendo's makes the best hardware in that case, and has proven to be the only one who can be successful in that market.

Yup, the "excellent idea for gamers" was just a stupid statement mirroring the one in the OP not what I actually believe. It would be good for me personally, but good for gamers in general? That's not something I'd say.

Certainly not good for portable gamers.

I disagree, nothing can really be argued there.

I used to think like this but considering that so many games have day-one patches now and I don't trade in my games, physical versions hardly have any value to me anymore.

Also, Sony makes so much money from 3rd party software sales, they'd lose all of that going third-party.

So? I don't get what any of those 3 have to do with creating games. And yea, they would have to pay a chunk to steam but the benefit would be that they don't have to maintain any of the services which they have to do now. They don't have to pay for server costs, hardware costs, UI upgrades and etc. They also don't have to run the risk of losing hardware sales to the competition everytime a new generation starts and plenty of other benefits.

And they could make their own services if they wanted to... Nothing as big as steam sure but that doesn't prevent EA and etc from creating their own and profiting from them. And the same with controllers and hardware. Not sure how marketing would get affected though.

So I don't get what would make it impossible to make the games they make now... If plenty of other developers can do it, I am sure Sony can.

And there are bundles like that on PC. We have GPUs, CPUs, SSDs and sometimes keyboard/mouse having game bundles. But again, I don't get why not being able to give away bundles would matter to them...