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Alkibiádēs said:
bananaking21 said:

people who keep saying this are just a joke to be honest. because you make a claim without any basis and look foolish as a result. he could get 1 click or 20 million it doesnt matter or make a difference to him. he doesnt make revenue from clicks. he doesnt monetize his site or his youtube channel. he makes money from donations on patreon. 

So he does benefit from more clicks as more people get to know him and his patreon account.

He's basically a beggar.

it doesnt matter when a bunch of lifeless fanboys click on his site or not. as they arent going to be supporting his patreon. so clicks really dont matter to him. 



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GoOnKid said:
bananaking21 said:

people who keep saying this are just a joke to be honest. because you make a claim without any basis and look foolish as a result. he could get 1 click or 20 million it doesnt matter or make a difference to him. he doesnt make revenue from clicks. he doesnt monetize his site or his youtube channel. he makes money from donations on patreon. 

I'm concluding this after reading this very thread and oberving that not only many people share the same opinion as I do, but there is also evidental fact that he is a nitpicky brat.

but your opinion, and those who share it, is flat out nonsensical, as he doesnt make money from clicks. 

im not sure you know what the word fact means then, to be honest. 



Alkibiádēs said:
LurkerJ said:

No, he's not. He's an amazing original content creator. His fans want more of his conent so they donate so he could dedicate more time to what he does. If his fans decide his output quality and quantity aren't on par, they can pull the plug. He's offering entertainment and people are paying for it. That's not begging, you are just an idiot who doesn't know the meaning of the word.

You throw around the word "amazing" pretty quickly. His reviews are poorly written. He comes across as an uneducated person when analysing his writing style. Hardly "amazing". What serious critic throws words like "fuck" around in his reviews? Roger Egbert is amazing, Jim Sterling is just a brat sharing his opinion online. 

He's asking people to donate money to him, how is that not a form of begging? It's also pretty obvious that the Youtube crowd doesn't care about quality if you look at how many subscribers people like Pewdiepie have. 

It's not begging because he's offering something in return for the money. You and I can disagree about the quality of his content but it doesn't turn, what he does for a living, begging. 

I don't like what Taylor Swift offers her fans but they pay up to listen to her crap anyways. That doesn't make her a beggar, it makes her a smart business woman.

There's also a big difference between how PDP and Jim's business model but that's not relevant to the definition of "Begging" so I won't get into that.



bananaking21 said:
Alkibiádēs said:

So he does benefit from more clicks as more people get to know him and his patreon account.

He's basically a beggar.

it doesnt matter when a bunch of lifeless fanboys click on his site or not. as they arent going to be supporting his patreon. so clicks really dont matter to him. 

Exactly. The baited crowd isn't gonna support him on Patreon and their clicks won't generate money from ads. 



I wouldn't take his nitpick that far. He goes and says its the equalent of C2 popup box. He doesn't mean it equals it. It just works the same way, to annoy you. If a game allows you to skip things. I prefer to have a tick option, to skip each cutscene, all the time.

In options: Cutscenes

Blood Moon: Auto skip

Shrine Unlock: Auto Skip

Shrine Elevator: Auto Skip

Shrine Complete: Auto Skip

Food: Auto Skip

Seed Dance: Auto Skip etc. Basically the way the boss fights just start up. When you have to redo them.



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bananaking21 said:
GoOnKid said:

I'm concluding this after reading this very thread and oberving that not only many people share the same opinion as I do, but there is also evidental fact that he is a nitpicky brat.

but your opinion, and those who share it, is flat out nonsensical, as he doesnt make money from clicks. 

im not sure you know what the word fact means then, to be honest. 

I know that a click alone won't get him anything but he needs as much attention as possible. The more people talk about him the higher the chances are that they like him and give him some donations. Now people talk about him more than before. Mission accomplished, I'd say.

He said the blood moon cutscene is equivalent to the text box from Castlevania 2. Now look at OP, he measured the times and the result is what? Not only is Jim's point nitpicky to say the least, but also overly exaggerated. Measurable durations are a fact.



KLAMarine said:
pokoko said:

Like I said, I'm not a fan of Sterling's style at all.  We disliked each other when he was at Destructoid.  However, he's pretty consistent in that he writes for humor and he writes the way he wants.  That's why he become famous in the first place.  He's not someone to read if you're easily offended, especially not over video-games.  Some people take certain franchises far too seriously and he doesn't coddle them at all.

I also don't buy all those claiming Sterling was just trying to get attention.  They're just trying to discredit him as best they can think of because he was mean to a game they liked and it bruised their ego.  If anything, Sterling is probably one of the most honest reviewers.  He most likely gave Zelda a 7 or whatever because that's how much he liked it.  Simple as that, really.  He doesn't try to figure out what it "deserves" or worry about fanboy reactions, he just gives it whatever he's feeling.  Like giving Deadly Premonition at 10 because it was quirky.  

Of course, in my experience (though from years ago at Destructoid), he also doesn't care that much about getting his facts right, so who knows.

Don't keep it to yourself, there.

Small stuff, mostly.  Complaining about not being able to do something in a game but then the comments are instantly full of people saying you can.  That can happen to anyone but most people would try to make sure that what they write is actually true.  I get the impression that he doesn't take the time to do that since it seems to happen to him a lot.  

I've seen it happen with big stuff, too.  He once wrote an article attacking Sony for copying Nintendo because he read the PSP2 was going to have two view-screens like the DS.  His source was an obscure blog that misunderstood the main article they quoted.  His defense was always that he was "a blogger, not a journalist" so he didn't have to fact-check.  

This is from a defense piece he wrote back then:

"Unlike journalists, who strive to be objective and must generally be impersonal with their writing, bloggers will project themselves onto the work they do. They will never be shy about adding in their own opinions to the news they write about, and give the world a piece of their mind. Blogs are full to the brim with personality, and the news often comes flavored with a big chunk of bias."  https://www.destructoid.com/screw-your-journalism-why-games-blogging-is-nothing-to-be-ashamed-of-68336.phtml

Also this:

"The question that comes to mind however is this -- do blogs compromise information in the projection of their personality? Sometimes, I have to confess, yes. Yes we do. Tommy Tallarico himself accused the blogs of rushing so quickly to be cynical, to appeal with negativity to the crowd of jaded gamers that make up their readership, that they will not only downplay, but even eschew the facts in favor of whipping up a storm of anger.

I'm big enough to admit that I have, at times, lost grasp of the facts in a desperate rush to get my voice out there. Bloggers will do that. When I first started writing, I was terrible at it, and even now, with several months under my belt, I admit I am not the best writer I can be. I am still learning, but that's another great thing about blogging -- we have that freedom to evolve. We are able to learn from our mistakes. I fully understand that most magazines would have fired me by now, for either mouthing off one too many times or accidentally announcing that the next Elder Scrolls would be an MMO. I have screwed up in the past, big time, and while I strive to be as professional as I can be, I am not a journalist and I do not claim to have "journalistic integrity." I only have my honest opinions, be they cynical or naive. "

That's pretty much Jim Sterling and why I call him a tabloid writer.  He wants to be an "internet personality," not a journalist.  That's why I don't care anything about his work.  However, at least he is open about it, instead of trying to hide behind a shield of objectivity while doing what is best for business behind the scenes.  I personally believe a lot of scores from the big publishers are of the "tell readers what they want to hear" variety.  I've grown really cynical about 10s being handed out like candy, for example.

In a nutshell, Sterling doesn't analyse the data and subtract the cons from the pros in order to get his scores.  He just marks down a number that represents how much he liked the game.  I can understand the argument that such a method doesn't fit with Metacritic but the idea that he's "wrong" about how much he enjoyed his time playing is absurd.  



LurkerJ said:
bananaking21 said:

it doesnt matter when a bunch of lifeless fanboys click on his site or not. as they arent going to be supporting his patreon. so clicks really dont matter to him. 

Exactly. The baited crowd isn't gonna support him on Patreon and their clicks won't generate money from ads. 

But the people who come to laugh at the baited crowd might.

Just like a youtuber doesn't get money for every click (ad-block is a thing). 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

He was nitpicky on purpuse, he decided the score before playing the game and then tried to justify it by blowing out of proportion any possible problem, going as far as lying in some details. It's pretty obvious he wanted the shitstorm to happen, but hey, thanks God for Jim Sterling, anyone that claims his review was orchestrated and dishonest is a fanboy. Sure...



Does he not realize that the blood moon sequence and shrine sequence are for loading purposes? Would he rather just have a spinning wheel?



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