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taus90 said:
SegataSanshiro said:
Only to have some padding to prevent it from scratching. Small foam strip will do the trick. Nothing more than that.

nope even that is not going to help, coz the nintendo is using plastic screen which is the worst type of protection for a touch screen, infact even with a normal glass u will have some sort of protection, coz even cleaning it with a micro fiber cloth u will end up with fine scratches on the screen. Nintendo doesnt need to redesign the dock or anything they just need add a high quality tempered screen with every nintendo switch. 

Glass isn't as durable nor as cost efective as plastic. Kids and clumsy adults drop things.



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Soundwave said:

 

Seeing as how people are reporting some scratches on the screen, also from tear downs it's been shown the dock is basically just a large hunk of plastic. 

It's also needlessly large I think, it'd be better if it was smaller and more portable for times where you want to take your dock with you to some one else's home or if you're going on vacation and wouldn't mind playing on the hotel HDTV. 

A dock more like this I think would work better:

No way to really scratch the screen and easier to dock/undock I feel. 

What's even the point of having that piece of plastic on the Switch dock? It doesn't really do anything but potentially scratch the LCD. I think Nintendo made the dock purposely bigger than it had to be to make it look more like a console component, but there's nothing inside that dock basically, it's a waste of plastic. 

No, they need to put just some kind material inside dock to prevent scratching, everything else is good. I like how whole screen is protected, and how docker is using little space.

Picture you posted is terrible because doesn't look at all stable or secure for docked mode, and takes huge amount of space, its look like laptop.



taus90 said:
BeatdownBrigade said:

They could have not been cheap and went with gorilla glass. Or not went cheap and made a low-quality plastic dock. Or not went cheap and allow people to use USB-C to HDMI adapters which are far cheaper for consumers than the dock. I am enjoying my Switch as a portable device, but there seems to be a growing trend with a lot of head-scratching corner-cutting cheap moves by Nintendo in the design of this whole thing. I'm leaning towards returning mine and watching for both more software and what I consider a pretty obvious hardware redesign in the dock and other aspects of the system soon enough.

i think its just a poor design choice on nintendo's part, considering the motherboard in the dock is not even 30% of the entire dock size, so the next iteration will be heavily focuced on dock. coz right now with a simple glass protector this issue can be curbed. 

Why should have to put a screen protector to protect the sysetm against a plastic flap that doesn't need to be there in the first place? If there was a functional reason for it, ok, but there isn't. It's just there to have a toaster design layout. Just use the design I showed in the OP, problem solved. Dock/undock to your hearts content, no worry about scratching. 



Soundwave said:

 

Gorilla Glass still breaks, I've seen plenty of shattered Gorilla Glass screens. Ultimately a game system with a scratched screen is still usable, one with a shattered screen -- not so much. 

So I think that was the right call design wise. The design of the dock though, personally I think it's bloated because they want to make it seem like it's a "console" and it's doing something when really it's not doing anything really but outputting the HDMI signal. It's 70% wasted space and has an unneccessary plastic "holder" that could scratch the screen if you're not very careful. Unneccessary. 

No, a plastic screen will break before a gorilla glass under the same stress and not to mention that endurance decreases on plastic when heat is added, give it time people will come up with creative cracked design on their switch. But that said even i think its a right choice to go with a plastic screen coz it has higher level of rigidity and low glare, but other part have been designed very poorly, like those joycons shoulder straps which doesnt come off easily if u put on the wrong the side, i pretty sure dock will be redesigned but that will be for future slim BS, but i think right now it will much more affordable to just give a glass protector for free of cost.



Miyamotoo said:
Soundwave said:

 

Seeing as how people are reporting some scratches on the screen, also from tear downs it's been shown the dock is basically just a large hunk of plastic. 

It's also needlessly large I think, it'd be better if it was smaller and more portable for times where you want to take your dock with you to some one else's home or if you're going on vacation and wouldn't mind playing on the hotel HDTV. 

A dock more like this I think would work better:

No way to really scratch the screen and easier to dock/undock I feel. 

What's even the point of having that piece of plastic on the Switch dock? It doesn't really do anything but potentially scratch the LCD. I think Nintendo made the dock purposely bigger than it had to be to make it look more like a console component, but there's nothing inside that dock basically, it's a waste of plastic. 

No, they need to put just some kind material inside dock to prevent scratching, everything else is good. I like how whole screen is protected, and how docker is using little space.

Picture you posted is terrible because doesn't look at all stable or secure for docked mode, and takes huge amount of space, its look like laptop.

Even this design has a lot of wasted plastic. You could cut the plastic off from the front part.  



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Soundwave said:
AlfredoTurkey said:
If you throw your smart phone off a 300 foot building, it's going to break. Should we also redesign our phones to withstand such a drop?

Throwing your phone off a 300 foot building is not central to it's main functionality.

Docking/undocking the Switch unit is something that many people will do 1-2+ times a day. 

Docking/undocking with care will not scratch anything. Docking/undocking like a barbarian on cocaine will. My argument is we needn't design things to protect reckless people from themselves. If people are going to be careless with their stuff (like throwing smart phones off buildings) then it's on them.



Soundwave said:
Miyamotoo said:

No, they need to put just some kind material inside dock to prevent scratching, everything else is good. I like how whole screen is protected, and how docker is using little space.

Picture you posted is terrible because doesn't look at all stable or secure for docked mode, and takes huge amount of space, its look like laptop.

Even this design has a lot of wasted plastic. You could cut the plastic off from the front part.  

And still wouldn't be nearly secure or stable like it is with current Switch Dock. About size, I dont think you realise how much little space Dock is actually using.





BeatdownBrigade said:
Soundwave said:

Glass breaks though, especially with kids, I think that was the reasoning behind it. Even the Vita does not use glass. 

Just get rid of that front plastic flap or change the design of the dock. It doesn't need to even be there. 

They could have not been cheap and went with gorilla glass. Or not went cheap and made a low-quality plastic dock. Or not went cheap and allow people to use USB-C to HDMI adapters which are far cheaper for consumers than the dock. I am enjoying my Switch as a portable device, but there seems to be a growing trend with a lot of head-scratching corner-cutting cheap moves by Nintendo in the design of this whole thing. I'm leaning towards returning mine and watching for both more software and what I consider a pretty obvious hardware redesign in the dock and other aspects of the system soon enough.

Gorilla Glass isn't not a guarantee for durability.
Case in point, when I bought my Samsung Galaxy Note 5 that same day whilst it was on it's first charge cycle... It slid off my desk (Cats) and landed on the wooden floor, it was about waist height.

The screen shattered.
That would not have happened with a Gameboy/Gameboy Colour/Gameboy Advance/Nintendo DS/Nintendo 3DS aka. Plastic screens.

If that is the durability you get from Gorilla Glass... Then you can kindly shove that garbage where the sun doesn't shine. To make matters worst, both sides of the phone is made out of the crap.

Gorilla Glass is however harder than plastic, which should result in less scratching... But Plastic doesn't tend to shatter or crack, it will usually bend.

Nintendo opting for a plastic screen is not a bad design choice, the dock is the issue.

Miyamotoo said:

No, they need to put just some kind material inside dock to prevent scratching, everything else is good. I like how whole screen is protected, and how docker is using little space.

Picture you posted is terrible because doesn't look at all stable or secure for docked mode, and takes huge amount of space, its look like laptop.

The issue with including any kind of material is that it can get gunked up with grit and dust particulates.

When it comes to a display, you need to keep it away from any kind of mechanical actions if possible... Otherwise over time the screen could end up looking like it has been sand-papered.

taus90 said:

No, a plastic screen will break before a gorilla glass under the same stress and not to mention that endurance decreases on plastic when heat is added, give it time people will come up with creative cracked design on their switch.

Hell no.




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a dock like this one would be better imo:

 

 

this allows for easier docking if you have your dock on a shelf or such, where there might not be as much room left above to insert the tablet.

It also limits the chances of "scratching" the front screen, when theres nothing infront of the system itself's screen.