Here's a brilliantly written article on Trump's attacks on the media, and their "fake news." Highly recommend reading it
http://time.com/4675860/donald-trump-fake-news-attacks/
Is "Fake News" a legitimate concept? | |||
Yes | 43 | 61.43% | |
No | 22 | 31.43% | |
Not sure | 5 | 7.14% | |
Total: | 70 |
Here's a brilliantly written article on Trump's attacks on the media, and their "fake news." Highly recommend reading it
http://time.com/4675860/donald-trump-fake-news-attacks/
etking said:
If you count only the physical visitors, media is right (despite the rain and the fact that entry often was blocked by protesters) Both sides are right, depending on the viewpoint so where is the problem. The fake news story is the media claiming that Trump meant physical watchers while he was referring to all watchers (physical + online). |
Two things. This is the second time Trump made such a claim about his win. Second! How many lies can he say and blame them on people who gave him the information? Seriously. That's no excuse.
Second. Nope. "That was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period. Both in person and around the globe".
That is a lie. A lie.
The irony is strong in the bolded text.
Fake news now is anything Trumpettes don't want to hear. Even if it isn't refutable.
FIT_Gamer said: Fake news now is anything Trumpettes don't want to hear. Even if it isn't refutable. |
No, fake news are only news that are wrong in a way that they do not reflect the truth. Most of them are published by the mainstrem media. Media workers and media company owners are almost always leftists and they do not want to report in a fair and unbiased manner. They want to bring along their political agenda which serves their own interests and the deep state. This is why the media does not report about immigrant violence or the Paris riots in an apropriate way, it would destroys their open borders narrative.
The stuff on Russia is not fake news.
Anyone who's trying to hand wave this away while being up Hilary Clinton's ass over emails is a hypocrite.
I like the term fast news and the example you provided. There is verifiably fake news being ditributed right now and that needs to be labelled as such.
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Dravenet7 said: yeah this is absolutely a political discussion. The only substantive point you give regarding your (re)definition fake news is all about politics. Everything else is merely a very vague suggestion that it could be in any other subject matters. Nothing of substance. I consider this thread in the same category or your (re)definition of fake. The only reason you made this thread is because of politics. Nothing more nothing less. EDIT: I'd be hard pressed to bet more than 2 people in this thread discussing or suggesting anything other politics. So far there are none. This doesn't belong in the General Discussion. |
It may belong in the Political Thread. Even if you're right on that count how does it carry over to the topic not having substance? Two different points.
The "general" part was in regards to this term being the equivalant of fast-food. The notion that fake news isn't just about false stories but that it is also used for shallow trivial/small news but then being passed on as though they were the opposite of that. This is the linked story/example in the OP. I'm saying it's important to realize the concept isn't exclusive to the genre of Politics. From that stand point I wasn't sure hwo the conversation would evolve.
etking said: Many media reports about Trump are Fake News. Like the Terror attack in Sweden of which he never talked about in his speech. (I watched the whole event and he was completely misunderstood and never said or meant that there has been a terror attack, he usually speaks about the extreme rise in crime and violence against women in Sweden and Germany and meant it that way. The reporter creating the false story must have never watched a Trump speech before. Also in Swedish local newspapers there are daily stories about many crimes commited by illegal immigrants or ISIS members because these are really happening) |
This is definitely part of what I want to be communicated to the public at large. Unpacking the term; 100%-false stories, Partly-false stories, and then trivialized stories due to bias(as I linked in the OP). And the bias isn't necessarily on part of the reporter/organization, but it's just the bias that is driving ratings at the time (the consumer).
This is why the term is kind of unhinging ppl imo. It means many things.
Sure. These days everything is about generating massive amounts of content. Most big websites seem to run a new top story every 4-6 hours in addition to numerous smaller ones, so that necessarily means quality and depth take a huge hit even before you factor in any other agendas about manipulating the audience's perception.