The fact that some people still think that gens are defined with consoles' horsepower kind of saddens me. Yep, Switch is a 9th gen console, I agree. There aren't reasons to think otherwise.

Because handled has their own gen, and targeted different consumer, and have lower spec then home consoles so, It doesn't compete with consoles. Not even indirectly. 

To bad then if Switch is 9th gen . Apple and Andorid has release their 9th product  a head , if you think gen is not define by spec. 

No, it's not the 9th generation. I would claim generations are already over and that we will see a more fluid market with different consoles launching at very different times along with iterations of existing consoles with improvements of performance.

This.

Though, you make a good argument. Hmm...

It's a WiiU sucessor, that makes the Switch 9th gen by definition. And Apple and Samsung don't make consoles as far as I know, so I don't think it has anything to do with the subject. I don't believe in this modern "number wars". The Switch will provide new ways for entertainment, new games, a brand new concept... So, why are we so obsessed about power and specs that we forget about what matters, and start defining gens just by power? Can't we play awesome games on the Switch because of that? No. Tech can't be the only thing that matters. I refuse to believe that's what gaming is all about. A power race. That should never be the new metric.

and then it's wii U an 8th gen consoles ??????

Apple and samsung are making games 

And Switch will not provide anything new , (a lot of games are from Wii U and will come later on another port from Wii U) hell, even their arms games are from 6th games era LOL

And yes Switch is awesome, i just responded to the discusion , even Switch is awesome that alone cannot define as 9th gen. 

Nope, Scorpio isn't 9th gen.

And all will be good on earth.

Nope it doesn't. The only "next gen games" it would play with that definition would be Nintendo, because all others would be on 8th gen and Switch not even being truly able to play them. So unless you think a generation is made by a sole console in tandem with the market then you are about crazy.

And if the tech isn't what define a new gen, why release a next gen console with basically the same HW power?

The only gen Sony has had that was 7 years was last gen.  Personally, I'm surprised MS decided to not launch a console until Sony did, seeing as they were a year earlier.  They seemed so unprepared for this gen.  Anyway, I fully expect Sony to release the PS5 in 2019, making this gen 6 years.  They're probably going to want to take advantage of AMD's new Ryzen CPU and a Vega GPU, which will be much cheaper in 2 years time.  That's also just as long as it took for the Wii U to launch after the Wii and the Switch to launch after the 3DS (people seem to forget that the Switch is its successor, too.)  If Nintendo continues to make HW, I don't see how launching just 2 years ahead of Sony and/or MS does not count them as being in the same gen.  I think people are just trying to complicate something that's not very complicated.

Sony decides when a console generation begins. A console generation starts when the next Play Station launches.