Right?!? It's $10 MORE(!) than a PSTV and that comes with and entire goddamn Vita inside of it.

That doesn't mean they are the only Standard. And just becase they are expensive doesn't make them overpriced if they are expensive to make in the first place, they are essentially 2 technically advance Wii remotes which would cost the same price.

When I preordered the Switch at GameStop and the cashier told me that it would be $80 to add a pack of two extra joy-cons, I admit that I felt it was too expensive (I still bought them). Since then, however, I've decided that the price is fair. At first, I was viewing them as needing both to have a 'complete' controller, but it's really $80 for two, and they're pretty cool.

However, I think the extra joy-con grip is $10 too expensive - I think $19.99 would have been more fair. Same with the Pro Controller: even with the tech, $69.99 is a bit steep for a traditional-style controller; $59.99 would have been more reasonable.

Still, I'll be buying a Pro Controller as well when I get the chance.

They are the only controller that comes with the system. What you're saying basically amounts to saying that the Gamepad isn't the standard Wii U controller.

But as I said, they are both overpriced.

This. Joy-Cons are the default way to use Switch, but PS Move is something different and marketed as such. In a way, PS Move is comparable to a lifestyle product.

It's 20 dollars more than a standard controller. It allows you to play with two players, has motion controls, HD rumble, and an IR camera.

They do more, and particularly if you're into multiplayer gaming, they're a better value. If you want to play something like Mario Kart with four players, you'd need to spend 80 dollars in controllers. If you want to play a similar four player game on the PS4, you'd have to spend 180 dollars in controllers.

If you want to play Just Dance with four players on PS4, you need an Eye camera, and four Moves. If you buy all that at MSRP, you're looking at 250 dollars. For the Switch, you can play Just Dance with four players for 80 dollars.

Someone will inevitably say "what if I don't want to play local multiplayer, or don't want motion controls". If you're one of those people, then you probably shouldn't buy the joycons, and should reconsider whether or not you should buy a Switch.

That's the consistent problem. People who prefer PS4 or XBox One gaming are judging the Switch based on their desires. That's fine to determine whether or not they should buy it. But if you want to make a general statement about whether or not the price is fair, you have to look at its functionality. For people who care about local multiplayer, portability, and motion control gaming, the Switch and Joycon prices are pretty reasonable.

I find it kind of funny that people are using the "its optional" argument to defend the price PS Move controllers yet the optional accessories for Switch like the Pro Controller, extra dock & charging grip have been condemned to hell for being too expensive.

Seems like a bit of a contradiction.

I guess but the comparison doesn't make a whole lot of sense since most people buying extra JoyCons are doing so because they want another controller, like the DS4 and not the PS Move.

The DualShock 4 has motion controls and is rechargeable. The DS4 also packs analog triggers (Pro Controller has digital ones), a touchpad, speakers, an audio jack and a light for better motion tracking. The only advantage of the Pro is the HD Rumble, so yes, it's a weird price.

The Joycons are just expensive, 80 bucks a pair is a steal. The Move is also freaking overpriced, but it isn't necessary on the PS4, PSVR works well with the DS4. Sony didn't even upgraded it to use micro USB, it is almost like they wanted us to know it's the same thing since 2011.

Also people defending the price of the Pro-controller are just flat wrong. The DS4 is cheaper and has a headphone jack, a speaker, a gyroscope, an accelerometer, and a touchpad.