I will accept the reality because it's Wii U on small scale with two awesome joycone, that's why the price is expensive, but like Spurgoyan have said, they can just give discount or even free games like 1-2 Switch , is not like the games are expensive to make.

While not everything is confirmed, 3x more powerful than Wii U is no way accurate from what is out there. it seems like you took Tegra X1 specs (1TFLOP at 1GHz) and applied it to switch, but you forget to factor in clock speed differences reported by Digital foudry. Going solely by FLOPS which you seem to imply, tegra x1 theoretically is 2x more powerful than Wii U in switch docked mode clock speed of 768MHz and actually slower than Wii U in UNDOCKED mode. People always hype up power of Nintendo consoles but they always underwhelm to be completely frank.

So an Nvidia Shield TV is likely more powerful than switch (not including unknown ram specs of switch)  and cost $200. from a console buyer perspective, this is undeniably overpriced by $100. And many consumers here expect the profit margin on the hardware of a major console to be small because we pay for it through overpriced peripherals/controllers and through Nintendo license on games. I would expect a Nintendo based console to be able to undercut a android based one of similar specs because of what I just mentioned (licensing, first part sales, 5 year cycle, MORE peripheral sales etc). The things that justify this price increase over the Nvidia product are the portable features (screen, battery etc) but to someone who doesn't care about this, they are just being charged $100 more for a "forced" feature

I personally think they are asking too much for what I am being provided and think they will probably have a smaller console ONLY version in like 2 years. They wont mention that so early because it takes away from the gimmick of the "switch". I dont really care for handhelds but if this means the libraries are unified then I am all for it because it means the games I would have missed out on for their handheld will now be available on the console. That is the only thing that makes the Switch appealing to me as some one who skipped Wii U. That and Mario Odyssey looks far better than 3d world and Breath of Wild looks better than SS so that is exciting too.

Not unless it sells for sub 30 any higher....not gonna happen

i hear you, man. It sucks for you, but maybe they'll pull a Vita and have a version that is just a box that hooks up to the TV

Is an estimation, numbers says the console is around 2 -2.5 but since it has a way more modern architechture is probsably closer to x3

vivster said: StarOcean said: It should come with something for that price It comes with two HD rumbling Joycons.

Its just rumble. Can't believe how hard they're hyping it.

Is a new technology and the new step for the rumble in gaming, on a portable device opn top of that, they are selling the strenghts of the console which is the obvious thing to do, imagine they do this and they dont inform anyone about it? That would be a bit dumb.

"And then it's all about, what's going to be included? Obviously the inclusion of the two Joy-Con, critically important; all the right cables, the dock, critically important. We also have to do this from a financial perspective as well. Once we got to that bundle, it really needed to be at $299 without a piece of software."

I find it curious that he calls what appears to be the basic Switch a "Bundle". So it seems that maybe Nintendo are planing a more basic Switch, which is to unbundle the docking station.

The whole statement is kinda oddly worded "What's going to be included?". As if there was a moment where someone questioned whether the Joy-Con are essential, and the response was yes they are critically important. It would be like asking whether a controller should be included with the base Xb one or PS4.

Suggests $299.99 is cutting the price right to the bone. But we know Nintendo likes to have an actual profit margin on its products from day 1. So I think they could afford to pack in a game of some sort, but that might technically mean selling at a loss because the value of the game has to be written down.

But I also suspect that Nintendo has a contingency plan. If the thing does not take off like gangbusters, they may drop the base price to $249 and also introduce some bundles at $299. However they are seeing if they can get away with a base price of $299 with bundles at $349/$399. If they can get away with that then clearly it's a much better financial position for them.

This is a really refreshing post. Thank you for realizing the reality of the situation; you're the complete opposite of entitled.

Come on, they've been generous enough. You don't just get 1, but 2 joy cons included! They could have easily packed in the right one and sold the left one separately. Or a leftie and a rightie sku. (sorry left handed people are real people too) Or none at all, the touchscreen should be enough to get started. (find your own stylus)
You also get 4 times the storage space of the standard WiiU, a dormant piece of plastic to hold the joy-cons together so you don't need to buy a real controller and it even includes an AC adaptor. People that have bought the n3ds should be particularly pleased by this generous move. Then, as a total bonus, there are some nice cords to hang your cat.

Anyway, too bad there's no deluxe bundle, 399 with 128gb internal storage, charging grip and Zelda BotW.