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RolStoppable said:
And you are surprised by this when you condone what Sony and Microsoft do?

A three year old console with a bundled game costs as much as a new console that is home console and portable in one and will have more compelling exclusive content. Doesn't sound outrageous in comparison with competitors.

For people that aren't interested in portability: "A more powerful console (with a much bigger library of good games) with a bundled game costs as much as a weaker console with features I don't care about".

I personally love gaming on the go and therefore the Switch appeals to me as a powerful handheld. But people not into gaming away from their TV won't see that advantage. And it's not their fault if they aren't the main target group of a product.



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They're trying to make a Wii 3. They'll fail spectacularly since it isn't below $250. It won't be able to compete with the Xbox One and PS4, simple as that.



Made a bet with LipeJJ and HylianYoshi that the XB1 will reach 30 million before Wii U reaches 15 million. Loser has to get avatar picked by winner for 6 months (or if I lose, either 6 months avatar control for both Lipe and Hylian, or my patrick avatar comes back forever).

Nintendo has always been greedy.  I think that should be the expectation rather than something to be surprised about.  The highest margins on hardware, the highest margins on games, the slowest to reduce prices on games, and a much lower expenditure on core services despite having billions in the bank.  NES/SNES Nintendo was the single greediest corporation gaming has ever seen and only changed because the market (and government regulations) forced them.

A company can only be as greedy as consumers allow, however.  The NES/SNES stuff aside, they can do what they want.  It's up to the consumer to take action one way or another.

badgenome said:

Maybe, but it feels more to me like they've given up on expanding their market and just want to rail as much money out of their existing fans as possible. This looks a lot more like the Wii U than the Wii to me.

I think Amiibo opened their eyes a bit.  Nintendo has said themselves that they were surprised about the primary purchasers of Amiibo.  It was intended to be for kids but, nope, the bulk of the market ended up being hardcore Nintendo fans.  If you've got a Golden Goose then why not  ... uh, I can't think of a smooth way to suggest impregnating a bird.  

That is, having another bird impregnate your bird, not doing it yourself.

I don't know what I'm talking about anymore.  



I'm confused by the approach.

It's like a return to the Wii with hardware much weaker then the competition and a return to motion controls. Yet the console will release and cost a lot more then it's rivals.

The Wii was weak, had motion controls and a nice cheap price.

I definitely think Nintendo are trying to maximise profits from their most loyal fans before they drop the price to get the mainstream.



Nothing wrong with the pricing, happy to pay whatever needs to be paid.
Not happy with the hardware being under powered and built to a low price sacrificing performance.

So no, I'm not happy with the price. Sure you could say the PS4/XB1 launched at this price or a bit more but at that time they were not skimping to this degree and that was 2 years ago.

More bullshit hardware specs, why even bother releasing new hardware that barely outperforms the old stuff.



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Cloudman said:
I do agree that they're being greedy with things like the accessories, but I don't agree with comparing the switch to the PS4 price and bundle now. It'd make more sense to compare it to the PS4 and XBO when they 1st launched, which PS4 was 399 with no game, and XBO was... 499 only at the time? I don't think any game either. And then with paid online, that's being going on since XBL. Sure you get more for paying for the service, but they're still asking you for extra money on something that used to be free. So yeah, nothing new here...

The accessories though, yeah, too much. They all need to be lowered.

No, it makes sense to compare the prices as the PS4 and XB1 are NOW. They've gone down in price due to cost cutting from increased chip yields, die shrinks as all hardware does. Forget that though, the Switch hardware is a joke, it's been made to cut costs to the maximum at the expense of performance. The PS4 and moreso the XB1 are hardly power houses on the GPU front, the Switch is an abomination and a very bad joke on that front.

There comes a point of diminishing returns when you cut costs this much. They could have spent just a tiny bit more on the hardware and had a hell of a lot more performance. But no, Nintendo have effectively churned out something more weedy than a budget smartphone.



The pricing on the accessories is bananas. I'm perfectly fine with a $299 price point for the console, but $70 for a pro controller, $80 for another pair of Joy Cons, and 90 FREAKING DOLLARS for a glorified charging station / HDMI TV out is insane!

So wait Nintendo, you're telling us that the dock + JoyCons cost $170 on their own, and the Nintendo Switch console itself is only $130??? Getdafuqouttahea!!!

And 1-2-Switch is the Wii Sports of this console - a glorified tech demo - and should be included with the console. The fact that they haven't announced any software bundles at a $300 price point for a console whose accessories apparently cost more to manufacture than the console itself is a joke.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

Which is why I'm waiting for prices to drop. I'm anticipating a Mario Kart bundle come holidays.



Kerotan said:
I'm confused by the approach.

It's like a return to the Wii with hardware much weaker then the competition and a return to motion controls. Yet the console will release and cost a lot more then it's rivals.

The Wii was weak, had motion controls and a nice cheap price.

I definitely think Nintendo are trying to maximise profits from their most loyal fans before they drop the price to get the mainstream.

I'm hoping that's what's going on because I want a Switch but not at $300.



KLAMarine said:
Which is why I'm waiting for prices to drop. I'm anticipating a Mario Kart bundle come holidays.

price drops? From Nintendo? hahaha



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