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So?

Shaddup, you Pony! 676 36.13%
 
Switch > PC/PS4/XBO 376 20.10%
 
I can buy them all, anyway 99 5.29%
 
Nintendon't need more 29 1.55%
 
Keep only doing handhelds 81 4.33%
 
Maybe one more gen... 78 4.17%
 
Sounds good! 277 14.80%
 
I have always wanted it... 90 4.81%
 
Don't care about Nintendo 125 6.68%
 
Sonic > Mario 40 2.14%
 
Total:1,871

Is this thread still alive? :/



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RolStoppable said:
Hynad said:

I take the thread as hypothetical only. Not as believing it as a real possibility of it happening.

And certainly not as someone who wants it to happen.

I don't think you've said anything about financials. I am refering to the people who say that it's financially sound to go third party.

I specified it to make sure people don't get the wrong idea.



Hynad said:
PigPen said:

I don't need to buy a Playstation 4.  Do that make sense? 

If Nintendo went third party, you would have to buy a console not made by them to get the games you want.  

That's why "I like the fact  I can choose a console I want to buy". See what I did?



PigPen said:
Hynad said:

If Nintendo went third party, you would have to buy a console not made by them to get the games you want.  

That's why "I like the fact I can choose a console I want to buy". See what I did?

Yes, but the point is the console you "want" to buy would change if the games you want to get were only available elsewhere, in the event that Nintendo doesn't make home consoles anymore.



Flilix said:
Is this thread still alive? :/

I was about to say....... some people are trying so hard xD LMFAO 

 

The Switch already broke many Nintendo and console sales records xD 



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NateH said:

 

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ArchangelMadzz said:
zorg1000 said:

i still think "by now" is necessary for that comment but i dont want to argue over grammar so ill just admit to not understanding what you meant.

as for bigger install base automatically equaling bigger sales, thats not how it works. i have given many examples earlier in this thread of franchises that sold a consistent amount regardless of install base.

obviously when a game is stuck on a device with an extremely low install base like Wii U or Vita than it limits a games potential but there really isnt any reaaon to assume Switch will do as poorly as them.

A bigger install base does matter. It's not 1 for 1 as that all means varied taste. 

 

But to increase the install base by 1000% would increase sales massively. Obviously not by 1000%. But let's look at Mario Kart 8. It sold 7.35million a massive number for Wii I system. I guarantee with PS4 XB1 and Steam it would've done at the extreme least 20 million. 

 

And keeping their handheld business that prints money would also be great for them. 

I agree. MKWii sold tons. MK8 would sell 20m on PS4/XBO/PC. Splatoon would sell 10m or more imo.



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Slownenberg said:

Honestly, Nintendo as a third party developer would be the worst thing possible for video games. Nintendo has always led in innovation. Not saying Sega/Sony/MS haven't or don't innovate at all, but compared to Nintendo they don't do much. Sony/MS basically just make more powerful systems, or they add in stuff that's already been done by Nintendo (analog stick, rumble, motion controls, etc) or that is being done already by other companies (VR).

I'm at the point where I could care less how powerful a system is, hell I got to that point by pretty much the Gamecube and Xbox. With those systems I was like wow graphics don't really need to be any better than this. Sure I appreciate current day amazing cutting edge graphics, but video games don't need to be realistic looking to be good. The difference between the graphics of a Switch and a PS4 is kinda just like, "oh yeah ps4 looks better, cool, that's nice".

Anyways, if there is one of the big three that it wouldn't really hurt the industry if they disappeared it's Microsoft. MS and Sony are basically playing the same game: get the most powerful system out there. But besides the 360/ps3 when their sales were basically equal for that gen, Sony always destroys MS. MS systems are just a less popular version of Sony systems. It's redundant. Since the Wii Nintendo has done different and interesting stuff, not always successfully (Wii U), but with every system (Wii, Wii U, Switch, DS, less so with the 3DS which was more gimmicky upgrade to the DS) they try to come at the market with something new. And especially these days with diminishing returns on graphics, Nintendo's innovation and pursuit of giving gamers new experiences will be more important than ever.

If Nintendo were to ever go third party that would be a sign that the industry is not going to grow anymore because you'd be left with two companies giving you the exact same experience, only slightly improved from their last offering.

I think it's not only about graphics and horsepower, but also about library, online features, variety of games, better account system. Nintendo is rubbish at a lot of things.

 Wii U is very innovative, but it still failed anyway.



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My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

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peachbuggy said:
Tbh i think there's more chance of Sony going 3rd party only.

Many say this about Microsoft, but for Sony? I'd like to hear why you think that.



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My Total Sales prediction for PS4 by the end of 2021: 110m+

When PS4 will hit 100m consoles sold: Before Christmas 2019

There were three ravens sat on a tree / They were as blacke as they might be / The one of them said to his mate, Where shall we our breakfast take?


zorg1000 said:
ArchangelMadzz said:


No ti isn't. can you literally name 1 example where a third party game has sold 0 on a platform when it has released on others? Every single Nintendo game will sell better if it was on PS/Xbox/Steam. You can argue if they could sell more to be worth it, or the ratio of sales but it's absolutely ridiculous to say it wouldn't sell better. A Bigger install base = more sales. If they released Zelda on PS4/Xb/Steam tomorrow will it sell 0? No. Will it take away some switch sales? Yeah, sure but definitely will be more sales than just being on Switch alone. 

5. They struggle to support enough to justify having a system for their games. A Ubisoft exclusive console would be a hard sell because they don't release enough games to justify an exclusive system. If Nintendo released 3 games a year that would easily be enough and still support their handheld.

wow thats a shitty argument, when did i say any game would sell 0 zero by being on PS/XB/PC? i said there is nothing to suggest that a Nintendo game would sell significantly higher on PS/XB/PC compared to Nintendo hardware.

how does releasing 3 multiplat games a year make mose sense than releasing those games on their own hardware? by releasing them on their own hardware they potentially move more hardware & accessories while also eliminating the need to pay royalties.

No you said bigger install base doesn't mean more sales. And now you're saying significantly more sales? 

 

I think being available to 200 million people instead of 10 million easily suggests significantly more sales. 

 

Because those 3 games will sell 5x more instead of selling them on just your own hardware. That is literally the entire crux of the argument.. Everyone knows console industry profits are driven by software sales.



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