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barneystinson69 said:
Neodegenerate said:

Yes.  Pointing out after being beaten for 7 out of 12 months that if you take a carefully curated view of only 6 of those 12 months that you won (ish) is in fact damage control.

Edit: Changed to 7 because didn't they win April or something?

So winning 1/2 the year is damage control? Why do people always assume it's damage control, when they stated it was up YOY and win the last 6 months of the year. It just means the holiday season was on a knife edge, and the PS4 barely won.

When you lose 2 straight, and then come back to talk about previous victories and spin them in a positive fashion, it is damage control.  It would be like if Ronda Rousey were to go on a speaking tour to discuss being the most dominant woman in the UFC after her two losses simply because she had won before those.

Also, keep in mind that Microsoft is the company who has the head (Spencer) who said a couple years back that the only months that matter are Sept-Dec.  So they lost half of the time that they care about, and then pull in times they don't to try to make themselves look better.

If it were flipped and Sony were saying the same things it would still be damage control.  Xbox can't regain its main territory and is trying like hell to put a positive spin on anything they can.  Were it my company I would do the same thing.  And I would expect people to call me out on it as well.

 

Bandorr said:
Neodegenerate said:

Yes.  Pointing out after being beaten for 7 out of 12 months that if you take a carefully curated view of only 6 of those 12 months that you won (ish) is in fact damage control.

Edit: Changed to 7 because didn't they win April or something?

Not this year. They didn't win anything until July. 6 losses, 4 wins, 2 losses.

April and October was 2015.

Thanks for clarifying, should've stuck with 8.



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Neodegenerate said:

That's just a beta though.  The game isn't actually releasing until the middle of Feb

No, it was fair comment. It was in the buzz bit.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
barneystinson69 said:

Hardly. The XB1 was more expensive for at least a week and a half of the month. I expect a January win for the XB1

Now that is bold

PS4:
Yakuza 0
Kingdom Hearts HD
Gravity Rush 2
Tales Of Besteria
Buzz for: Nier/Horizon Zero Dawn

XB1:
Nothing
Buzz for: Nothing

Outside of Kingdom Hearts, which is another HD remaster, the public in general has no idea what any of those games are. I doubt Johnny and Suzy in Alden, Iowa are saying, 'Oh finally I've been waiting for Yakuza!'

Most of those games don't appeal to the general populace and won't be system sellers.



barneystinson69 said:

Well sorry. I mean both months saw the ps4 gain less than 200k on the XB1, and it had an advantage with pricing and new hardware. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.

You have the numbers or you mean combined?



 

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At the end of the day, ps4 won the best months of the year even if xb1 beat ps4 at the second half. ps4 definitely has the momentum to win most month at the first half of the year. ps4 ended up stronger than the xb1 at the end of the year.



why are MS talking about the half year anyway, the months they won are all pre-season



bunchanumbers said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Now that is bold

PS4:
Yakuza 0
Kingdom Hearts HD
Gravity Rush 2
Tales Of Besteria
Buzz for: Nier/Horizon Zero Dawn

XB1:
Nothing
Buzz for: Nothing

Outside of Kingdom Hearts, which is another HD remaster, the public in general has no idea what any of those games are. I doubt Johnny and Suzy in Alden, Iowa are saying, 'Oh finally I've been waiting for Yakuza!'

Most of those games don't appeal to the general populace and won't be system sellers.

Sums it up nicely... 

1st party for both are pretty bad hoenstly. Sony's had the huge help from 3rd parties. 



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bunchanumbers said:

Outside of Kingdom Hearts, which is another HD remaster, the public in general has no idea what any of those games are. I doubt Johnny and Suzy in Alden, Iowa are saying, 'Oh finally I've been waiting for Yakuza!'

Most of those games don't appeal to the general populace and won't be system sellers.

Yep, 'nothing' is definitely the preferable position to be in.



 

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GribbleGrunger said:
bunchanumbers said:

Outside of Kingdom Hearts, which is another HD remaster, the public in general has no idea what any of those games are. I doubt Johnny and Suzy in Alden, Iowa are saying, 'Oh finally I've been waiting for Yakuza!'

Most of those games don't appeal to the general populace and won't be system sellers.

Yep, 'nothing' is definitely the preferable position to be in.

All this is, is a list war list. I wouldn't be surprised if at the end of the month most people are saying that PS4 didn't even have any games launching in January.