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Aura7541 on 12 January 2017
RidingMower said:
Soundwave said:

With respect, you guys are cherry picking what I'm saying and taking it out of context.

This was the line that apparently got some people upset:

Sounds like they are down year over year though, whereas MS is up year over year for December. That means they closed the gap.

I'm speaking about the gap they had between them last December, MS is trending up, Sony is trending down. The context I was talking about is rather clear there by the preceeding sentence. I never once said MS had closed the gap in overall LTD sales, but the fact that they are far more competetive.

"Gap" is apparently a loaded term. Go figure. To me personally MS' sales are more impressive because they just have one vanilla model, and the One S boost should have faded a bit since it's been available for months whereas PS4 Slim is the new thing for the holiday on top of the really new PS4 Pro. 

I'm confused by what you're saying. If they are up yoy, that is only speaking of their own sales for the year. They could be selling them at a loss. They may have sold more, and taking a huge hit to profits in the process. Why would Sony being down yoy even be the good news for Xbox in your thinking? Even if Sony was down on the year, they probably still came out ahead, financially in this year.

That's the other thing. Sony primarily depended on the UC4 bundle, where UC4 is a first party game. There was the FFXV LE bundle, but that thing costed $449, lol. And Sony held off on the Infinite Warfare bundle until the last week of December. In Holidays 2015, Sony was more reliant on 3rd party bundles such as the Black Ops 3 and Star Wars bundles. Based on this information, it's reasonable to infer that SIEA prioritized revenue over sales volume last holiday season.

Fun fact, in the quarter of July through September, Xbox hardware revenue was down YOY by 26%. That was in spite of the XB1 S being in the market for two full months.



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Kerotan on 12 January 2017

So Sony increased the gap by around 350k this year in Microsofts strongest territory.

What an awesome year 2016 was. Now onto 2017. I wonder how they'll do the first 6 months of the year. Pre season will be exciting!



jason1637 on 12 January 2017
Bandorr said:
Kerotan said:
So Sony increased the gap by around 350k this year in Microsofts strongest territory.

What an awesome year 2016 was. Now onto 2017. I wonder how they'll do the first 6 months of the year. Pre season will be exciting!

Switch will be their biggest hurdle. I am curious to find out what the "switch factor" will have on consoles.  Will the switch consoles "leach" some of the ps4 consoles giving xbox a bonus?

Will it give people "a taste" and actually get people wanting to buy the ps4 also?

It will be interesting to watch.

Why would it give people a taste? The Switch and PS4 audience are different.



Kerotan on 12 January 2017
jason1637 said:
Bandorr said:

Switch will be their biggest hurdle. I am curious to find out what the "switch factor" will have on consoles.  Will the switch consoles "leach" some of the ps4 consoles giving xbox a bonus?

Will it give people "a taste" and actually get people wanting to buy the ps4 also?

It will be interesting to watch.

Why would it give people a taste? The Switch and PS4 audience are different.

Yep and I wish the Switch the best if luck.  I hope they can capture the casual audience again like they did with the Wii. Get those people off their phones and back to consoles again.  It would be great. 



Blood_Tears on 12 January 2017

Congrats to Sony for taking the win over the holidays in MS's best territory plus the UK this year. Who would have thought after the PS3 got trounced by 17 million in the US that Sony would come back like this. MS continues to throw everything they have at Sony and their best year is just not good enough.



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thismeintiel on 12 January 2017
Boutros said:
"The Xbox company also pointed out that PS4 sales slid year-over-year, and that Xbox One actually outsold Sony’s system in the second half of 2016."

lol wow

LOL is right.  Can they be more salty?  That still means the PS4 beat them for the year AND momentum is back in Sony's favor.  Nice way to spin it though, MS.



 

hudsoniscool on 12 January 2017
Bandorr said:
hudsoniscool said:

While what u are saying is true you can't say stuff like that around here. You will get pushed around by the hoard.

So are you glad no one took you up on that bet? It was a 150k bet, but you actually thought it was 250k right?

What bet?  



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halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

KBG29 on 12 January 2017
Kerotan said:
jason1637 said:

Why would it give people a taste? The Switch and PS4 audience are different.

Yep and I wish the Switch the best if luck.  I hope they can capture the casual audience again like they did with the Wii. Get those people off their phones and back to consoles again.  It would be great. 

That's why I hope they offer a Switch with 4G and mobile communication. There are a lot of poeple that only use smart phones for social and internet. A great gaming phone that delivered these basics could sell very well.

It doesn't look very promising for this model right now, but hopefully we are surprised. Without this, I don't feel very confident that they can do well, but I guess time will tell.



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3sexty on 12 January 2017
Intrinsic said:
3sexty said:

True that lol, I mean some people treat it literally treat it like a religion or a fanatical sports team. We have posters with god like characters branding Sony and playstation as the return of some sort of king as their signature and others with graphics depicting CEOs firing explodong arrows into the competition. Lol - too funny.. why is this stuff taken so seriously. I mean its fun to follow the industry and to engage into healthy debate or discussions but yeah anyway, you have to watch what u say here so as not to upset people.

Hmmm your post history though.......

don't worry.... we can chalk it up to someone hacking your account and posting as you.

My post history...Umm yes I have predicted xbox winning months while trying to offer sound reasons for it even when I have been wrong on many occasions and yes I like Microsoft products and that is evident but please do tell when is the last time I gloated about XBOs or Microsoft and presented fanatic like statements or representations. I do try my best to support my statements rather than make bold statements such as yep now they should win every npd the way it ought to be, back on top again like they should be blah blah,. And just because I got into disagreements With folk that does not make me a fanatic. Context would be appreciated thx. Oh and add to that how often do I get banned here?.prob once in my entire time here.



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Kerotan on 12 January 2017
KBG29 said:
Kerotan said:

Yep and I wish the Switch the best if luck.  I hope they can capture the casual audience again like they did with the Wii. Get those people off their phones and back to consoles again.  It would be great. 

That's why I hope they offer a Switch with 4G and mobile communication. There are a lot of poeple that only use smart phones for social and internet. A great gaming phone that delivered these basics could sell very well.

It doesn't look very promising for this model right now, but hopefully we are surprised. Without this, I don't feel very confident that they can do well, but I guess time will tell.

Same here.  I hope we're all surprised and it's a breakout success!