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FunFan on 09 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
FunFan said:

The only evolution this pic shows is SDTV -> HDTV-> 4KTV

Otherwise there is no dicernible pattern whatsoever. Not the years, the consoles, their sales, nor their importance reflect any relation. Unless Nintendo still believes the Wii had the same impact in the industry as the NES.

I disagree.

The NES is the origin, the Wii is the return to the roots, Switch is pitched as the next "back to basics" Nintendo console. Technology evolves, but the core principles for success remain the same.

Simplicity focus?



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Nautilus on 09 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
FunFan said:

The only evolution this pic shows is SDTV -> HDTV-> 4KTV

Otherwise there is no dicernible pattern whatsoever. Not the years, the consoles, their sales, nor their importance reflect any relation. Unless Nintendo still believes the Wii had the same impact in the industry as the NES.

I disagree.

The NES is the origin, the Wii is the return to the roots, Switch is pitched as the next "back to basics" Nintendo console. Technology evolves, but the core principles for success remain the same.

I just think they missed the 64, which was the jump to 3D an was also important for Nintendo for its evolution.But yeah, that pic mostly depicts the big moments in Nintendo hardware history(home consoles).



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Cloudman on 09 January 2017

Dang, maybe he knows the switch presentation is gonna be awesome, haha.



 

              

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FunFan on 09 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
FunFan said:

Simplicity focus?

Accessibility is the better term. Create a pipeline to bring in new people and maintain it. No need to be upset if half of the new people aren't interested in diving deeper into virtual worlds, because that still leaves you with enough people to replace those who drop out for whatever reason.

It's the principle that helped the Pokémon series to maintain consistently high sales after the initial games became a cultural phenomenon. The hardcore fans may complain that the games don't evolve enough, but that's precisely the reason why the IP is still so successful.

Well, your interpretation at least explain why the N64 is missing on that pic. Otherwise, it could had been refering to the advancement-upgrade cycle.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

Nautilus on 09 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
Nautilus said:

I just think they missed the 64, which was the jump to 3D an was also important for Nintendo for its evolution.But yeah, that pic mostly depicts the big moments in Nintendo hardware history(home consoles).

That's more like devolution. It stands for what wrecks Nintendo time and time again. Emphasize 3D and sales go down, although technically it's the focus on games that require a higher investment of time that usually goes hand in hand with the glorification of 3D.

Thats just a matter of perspective.Wether you like it or not, Nintendo needs to get on with the times, and sometimes that means more time with the titles to make it more "mainstream".And lets face it, their non 3D investements hasnt faired that well the last couple years, at least not as well as they used to.Balance is everything.

And if you wanna look at it at another angle, its thanks to the failure of the 64 and gamecube that we got the Wii and less focus on power.If thats a good thing or a bad thing, its simply a matter of persception.You wont find it hard to find acolytes for both sides, that I can garantee.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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FunFan on 09 January 2017
Nautilus said:
RolStoppable said:

That's more like devolution. It stands for what wrecks Nintendo time and time again. Emphasize 3D and sales go down, although technically it's the focus on games that require a higher investment of time that usually goes hand in hand with the glorification of 3D.

Thats just a matter of perspective.Wether you like it or not, Nintendo needs to get on with the times, and sometimes that means more time with the titles to make it more "mainstream".And lets face it, their non 3D investements hasnt faired that well the last couple years, at least not as well as they used to.Balance is everything.

And if you wanna look at it at another angle, its thanks to the failure of the 64 and gamecube that we got the Wii and less focus on power.If thats a good thing or a bad thing, its simply a matter of persception.You wont find it hard to find acolytes for both sides, that I can garantee.

Maybe what he meant was exactly going back to balance. The N64/GC eras were out of balance in terms of 2D/3D games and also in terms of complex/accessible games.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

chakkra on 09 January 2017

Well,  I have already been impressed with what they've shown so far:  A handheld that can run games of the likes of BOTW, MK8, Skyrim and Splatoon.

Now they just need to make it $199  and I'll be blown away.



FunFan on 09 January 2017
chakkra said:

Well,  I have already been impressed with what they've shown so far:  A handheld that can run games of the likes of BOTW, MK8, Skyrim and Splatoon.

Now they just need to make it $199  and I'll be blown away.

199 1ill be sexy.



“Simple minds have always confused great honesty with great rudeness.” - Sherlock Holmes, Elementary (2013).

"Did you guys expected some actual rational fact-based reasoning? ...you should already know I'm all about BS and fraudulence." - FunFan, VGchartz (2016)

SonytendoAmiibo on 09 January 2017
Illusion said:
LivingMetal said:
                                        

A report from December claimed the Switch would boast 1 teraflop of performance, meaning it's reportedly less powerful than the PS4 and Xbox One. Sources said the Switch will use Nvidia's Maxwell graphics 

I am confused.  Everybody on this site keeps saying that the Switch will have a sub-400 Gflop graphics processing capabilities and yet this is the second time as many days that I have seen reports saying that the Switch will have 1 Tflop performance.  What am I missing here?

A 1 Tflop performance would be amazing for the Switch.  It would basically put the Switch on par with the XBox One and would likely guarantee 3rd party support.  Clearly this is too good to be true...

It is because Nvidia can be disingenuous  (something I have been accused of by the way ) about the way they show the power of there chips. Notice the FP 16 in the image below. Everyone else uses FP 32 to show the flop potential of there chips. It basically means the chip is half as powerful than they say it is.

 



   

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Soundwave on 10 January 2017
RolStoppable said:
Nautilus said:

Thats just a matter of perspective.Wether you like it or not, Nintendo needs to get on with the times, and sometimes that means more time with the titles to make it more "mainstream".And lets face it, their non 3D investements hasnt faired that well the last couple years, at least not as well as they used to.Balance is everything.

And if you wanna look at it at another angle, its thanks to the failure of the 64 and gamecube that we got the Wii and less focus on power.If thats a good thing or a bad thing, its simply a matter of persception.You wont find it hard to find acolytes for both sides, that I can garantee.

I meant higher investment of time on behalf of the players, not the developers. It kills the pipeline of new players coming in, that in turn reduces the sales of all kinds of games.

You can have an accessible system and deep games without either part suffering. However, the other way around is poisonous because the hardware design will kill the pipeline. The Nintendo 64 is an example of that. There are games that can be played with a couple of buttons and in sessions that are only a few minutes long, but that monster of a controller was so off-putting that people didn't even want to give it a shot.

N64 would've outsold the NES if it had the same developer support the SNES/NES had. 

The fact that it still somehow managed to sell 33 million consoles with $80 games and long stretches where it only got like 1 game every month (if that) is unbelievable. 

In fact it sold exactly the same as the SNES did in the US and Europe basically despite being starved for games, the decline came from Japan and that decline was because it lost the Japanese RPGs like Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy for no good reason. 

You add Final Fantasy VII, Resident Evil, Tekken, and other third party titles to Mario 64, GoldenEye, and Zelda: OoT and they would have doubled sales easily, probably more than that. 

The N64 was outselling the Playstation into 1997 quite routinely, it's not until the really ugly software droughts started and FF7 launched on PSOne in September '97 that Sony pulled away (actually even then the N64 had a solid holiday 1997 largely thanks to GoldenEye coming out nowhere). Until then the N64 was the fastest selling console ever by a large margin. They didn't have games to keep that fire going. The N64 was a system that the public liked and was incredibly enthusiastic about, it was the PS4 of its day, until people began to realize the system was not getting games.