Jaicee said:
I'm not looking to complain here so much as to look for advice. I believe this is, in fact, my first visit to this thread so far if it helps put matters in perspective. Further perspective would be that let the record show I have never reported anyone for anything in my years of being here and have no intention of "calling out" or otherwise harming or embarrassing anyone here. I don't want to be seen as one of those annoying people who goes around complaining about everything or is looking to upset the order of things and make the lives of the people who run this site miserable or what have you. But it just seems like, in general, I wind up in some low-level form of trouble around here almost constantly and it's really starting to get discouraging. To that end, I'd like some advice on what, just in general, I can be doing differently in the future to avoid like half my threads getting closed and constantly being warned and threatened by the mod team both in private and in public for various reasons that seem small to me.
Here's an example from today: I was just threatened with a thread ban, which is no big deal (I'll just thread ban myself by not posting there or on the topic of the game in question anymore, problem solved), but it seems like I'm almost constantly getting warned or moderated in some way. Another example would be that earlier this last week, I got a private message from a moderator warning me against joking with a particular user because of said user's propensity to report things without justification...which seems more like the problem there is with him and not me, but I'm the one who gets warned to change my behavior anyway. No big deal, I just won't talk to that specific person anymore, problem solved. Another example would be that not terribly long ago, I promised people I would author a thread with my at-length thoughts about a particular game and 8 people up-voted the post where I made that promise. I later point blank asked the community if it would be okay to follow through and do so. Then I followed through and posted the thread and it was closed after one post. I put a lot of effort into that! I wrote 19 paragraphs and bore a lot of my soul and it just seemed like a lot to just be thrown away like that. It's just lots of little things like that that keep happening and keep happening and keep happening and keep happening and I keep having to impose more and more rules on myself to avoid getting in trouble and it's not even working. I'm starting to feel almost afraid to say anything anymore because it feels like I'm being gunned for; like large numbers of people are looking for ways to get rid of me and to which end are probably reporting me for all kinds of insignificant things and that's why I keep getting in trouble for small things that don't even always seem like they're really my fault at all, to tell you the honest truth.
Like I said, I'm not meaning to complain here, it just seems like these little things are now happening with a frequency that they don't on many other forums that I visit and I don't behave particularly differently anywhere except that I'm, if anything, maybe more cautious here because I know that I don't really fit in or belong; I have enough self-awareness to realize that. I know that I joke around, but that's just like part of how I make friends a lot of the time. I don't seriously mean to hurt anyone or ruin anyone's game or what have you if that's how it's coming across. Do I need to, just at a macro level, change that and try to focus on being more strictly serious when I visit here? Would that help? Am I too political in general; do I say too much that way and that's the root of the problem? Level with me! What can I be doing differently just in general going forward to avoid constantly being in trouble?
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I'll only speak to the matters that I recall giving any input on.
First, this is more in general than to you in particular, I don't think never reporting anyone is necessarily a virtue. I'm not saying to go reporting posts that don't deserve it, but the report button is there for a reason. We don't have eyes everywhere, and it also gives us a better sense of what kinds of things the community as a whole thinks is crossing the line. I'm not trying to absolve moderators from all responsibility in tracking users, since that's like most of our job, but at the same time, putting more eyes on problematic behavior is only going to help eliminate it.
As for the topic that was locked, it was simply seen as a duplicate thread. At this point, there were 2 active threads specifically addressing reviews/thoughts on the game (one for MC reviews and a spoiler topic for impressions of the game, and various other topics about aspects of the game. In general, if there's a designated topic for something, we want to keep things in that topic. In particular when there's a big new game, we don't want a new thread for every opinion on it. We don't really evaluate it based on how much effort we think went into it or w/e. In really particular the TLOU2 topics had been consistently going off the rails and have required pretty vigilant monitoring. Keeping the amount of topics more limited makes that easier. For the most part, locking the thread really had nothing to do with the actual content. It definitely had nothing to do with you in particular, as we would have responded the same way if the same thing had been posted by another account.
If you spoke to the community and people seemed to want your take on the game would that have influenced the decision? Maybe. I don't want to speak for the mod team, but it's definitely something I would have taken into consideration. But that's a sort of unusual circumstance that we didn't even really consider. I don't anticipate making a rule change in the future to specifically allow something like that, but (and again I don't want to speak for everyone) there's a chance we could make exceptions in the future.
With all of that being said, perhaps we should have recognized that you did put time into it, and communicated better. I'm 99% sure that I'm the one who brought the thread up and suggested locking it, so that's mainly on me, and I'll think more about how I'll deal with that sort of thing in the future.
I'm sorry you don't feel like you belong here. That's not really my perspective, but I guess that's subjective. What I can tell you objectively is that we are not getting a large volume of reports on your posts. I don't recall if there have been any, but if there have been, it's a relatively small number. So there's not a large number of users gunning for you. As for the mod team, you've only been moderated a couple of times, so if we were looking to get rid of you, then we're doing a pretty awful job. For my part there's nothing I see you doing terribly wrong.