RolStoppable said:
Aeolus451 said:
I must have backed you into a corner. 😹
Could you cut that out and stick to arguing against my points, please? I'm talking about that first part in particular.
Your argument centers around moderating users for stating "unsubstantiated" opinions. What constitutes as unsubstantiated is subjective. Therein lies its major flaw which you've already acknowledged by not wanting me or kerotan in charge of determining what's unsubstantiated or not. It's only a good idea if you or someone like you are in charge of it, right?
Forcing everyone to substantiate their opinions on a gaming forum where its own users don't trust the site's estimates sounds really fucking ridiculous to me. You can't possibly justify taking those kind of measures. I sure as hell don't want an authoritarian minded ninty fan deciding on what's considered unsubstantiated or not and banning me over it. I don't want anyone with that ability here. It's just a gaming forum.
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Your previous post offered nothing of substance. You didn't properly address my post and you merely reiterated things that you've said before, so you shouldn't expect anything in response when you made no effort to make progress yourself.
Subjective interpretation can only be a flaw if incompetent people are in charge; which would be the case with you or Kerotan in charge. Such incompetence includes the lack of understanding what a straw man argument is or being unable to tell the difference between an actual racist and a satirical post. There are more things that could be listed as reasons why neither you or Kerotan should be moderators, but the point should already be clear enough. Since most, if not all, of the current moderators probably don't fit the description of "someone like Rol", your assertion that someone like me would have to be in charge would necessitate that you believe that the current moderators are like me. After all, I would trust the current team's competence when it comes to dealing with what is discussed here.
People who attack this site's numbers are usually held accountable. Anyone who calls the numbers worthless has to justify themself because that's how site criticism is handled. Similar things hold true for accusations against the mod team. It would be great if users were being held accountable for a broader range of topics. Essentially, everything that falls into a category of fact-based discussions, so you can save yourself the time of bringing up religion again, or proposing similar topics such as "Does karma exist?" or "Is everything in this world predestinated?" where definitive answers don't exist.
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I'm explaining my opinion in a different way for the sake of the news users who see this exchange and the ones who've been watching. You have very little to do with the ones I'm talking to. You're just regurgitating the wrong side of the argument.
You talk of strawmans then use "racist and satirical posts"? Are you certain that I commented on that situation or took a side in that? Also, you don't care for the mod team. You're constantly nagging them like some old wife with what you think is the right way to moderate people. That is what started this whole debate. I mainly argue in this thread against bad ideas that are proposed. You want this so when you become a mod, you'll ban anyone who disagrees with your version of things.
Again, you're arguing for my side on this by saying its flaw is the possibility of "incompetent people". We both agree on that. It's funny that "incompetent people" is also subjective, that is main point in this.