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maxleresistant said:
vivster said:
Wouldn't the Switch have to sell significantly more than Wii U and 3DS combined to turn anything around?

WiiU, 3DS AND Vita...

It would need to sell as much as the Nintendo DS and then even more...

That's why I always said the Switch can't be the only answer to the decline of japanese market

The thing is, why is there anything to do against it in the first place? The dedicated console market may be declining but on the other end the mobile market is booming. If dedicated consoles can't keep up with the convenience of smartphones then that's it. Deserved death I would say.



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vivster said:
maxleresistant said:

WiiU, 3DS AND Vita...

It would need to sell as much as the Nintendo DS and then even more...

That's why I always said the Switch can't be the only answer to the decline of japanese market

The thing is, why is there anything to do against it in the first place? The dedicated console market may be declining but on the other end the mobile market is booming. If dedicated consoles can't keep up with the convenience of smartphones then that's it. Deserved death I would say.

Because the quality of games on mobile is utter shit.

it's not about the disappearance of hardware, but the disappearance of great games. But IMO, Nintendo hasn't been great in the last 10 years anyway.



Software isn't going up anytime soon unless 2017 packs the huge sellers, and even then they would all need to be on 3DS.

2014 was special due to the Yokai Watch boom, plus Pokemon, plus Monster Hunter, plus Smash, plus other two somewhat good sellers Mario Kart 8 and Final Fantasy Explorers. 2016 had Pokemon Sun and Moon, Persona 5, and Final Fantasy XV... That's all.



maxleresistant said:
vivster said:

The thing is, why is there anything to do against it in the first place? The dedicated console market may be declining but on the other end the mobile market is booming. If dedicated consoles can't keep up with the convenience of smartphones then that's it. Deserved death I would say.

Because the quality of games on mobile is utter shit.

it's not about the disappearance of hardware, but the disappearance of great games. But IMO, Nintendo hasn't been great in the last 10 years anyway.

If quality on mobile is shit, why is the dedicated console market losing customers?

Great games will always be there, no matter the platform. The bad quality of mobile games is vastly exaggerated. Just because the stores don't have very much quality control and let every shite through doesn't mean there aren't good games among them. In fact there are quite a few great games on mobile.

Where do you think the people with money and talent will go after the console market is over? Do you think they will just stop making games?

The biggest problem of the mobile market is actually how big it is. It seems counter intuitive but with such a big market comes a lot of competition. It's not justifiable to put a lot of money in a mobile game unless you know it will succeed. And at the moment the only guarantee for that is to already have a big name like Nintendo.

The mobile market is not inherently worse, it's just a different platform that adjusted to the customer's needs. Currently there are not many great AAA experiences on mobile because people go to console for those. But as soon as consoles begin to die the demand on mobile for these experiences will increase and some people will gladly step in that gap and try to satisfy the demand.

So yeah, the reason why people perceive the mobile market as bad is because they are not there demanding quality games. Mobile is bad because people don't want it to be good, all the while clinging to outdated closed platforms like consoles.



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How do these people have fun with mobile gaming? I play a game on my phone for two seconds and I'm already bored.



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HandofPrometheus said:
How do these people have fun with mobile gaming? I play a game on my phone for two seconds and I'm already bored.

Not their fault if you play boring things.



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Shows how stagnant the Japanese economy is really



Switch should definitely help Japan, it might not be a great success anywhere else but I'd be surprised if it didn't do extremely well in Japan.



I hope it goes completely dead so people will shut up about Japan dying like the last few years. Worst thing is that mobiles can't kill it sooner.

Unless the social structure in Japan is changed (working from home etc), it'll stay dead.



What kept Japan afloat from 2006 onwards was the combination of Wii, DS and PSP - if it hadn't been for those consoles, we would have seen a much more steady decline. Japan is moving on towards mobile. It's not like the gaming market is disappearing; it's just shifting away to other platforms



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