Teeqoz said:
We don't know. |
Well its interesting that Sony have released sales numbers (which I was assuming that Sony might have lost NPD), but MS have released totals hours played numbers, so I can only assume MS didnt win NPD.
Teeqoz said:
We don't know. |
Well its interesting that Sony have released sales numbers (which I was assuming that Sony might have lost NPD), but MS have released totals hours played numbers, so I can only assume MS didnt win NPD.
RolStoppable said:
55m+, otherwise their forecast for shipments wouldn't make any sense. |
Source? Quz the forcast was 20mill SHIPPED in PY 2016 ending in march 2017.
RolStoppable said:
It's just a matter of math. By the end of March 2016, there was a normal amount of PS4s on store shelves. The same will hold true by the end of March 2017. So if Sony forecasts shipments of 20m units, they also need to sell through 20m units, because retailers aren't going to increase the stock they have sitting on their store shelves. The PS4 sold through 17.5m this calendar year, I guess 2-3m of that number were sold from January to March 2016. So for the currently running fiscal year, Sony has sold through 14.5-15.5m of their 20m goal. That leaves 4.5-5.5m for the January to March quarter which could only be attained by doubling the number of the previous year. That's unrealistic because the current momentum matches up closely with the one from one year ago, therefore at this point of the fiscal year the PS4 would have needed to be at least 1.5m higher than it actually is. |
Good for you but where is the source where sony said they wanted 55+ sold though numbers for the end of the year? 😱
You have been downplaying ps4's gigantic success ever since they announced the 53mill sold.
Microsoft is to afraid to let the world know how bad xbox one is selling and stopped giving numbers.
Nintendo just totally gave up on one of the worst selling game systems of all time,leaving vita to even outsell it.
And sony just keep going with the ps4 having massive success and the ball is just starting to roll.
There is noo logic for your annoying downplay.
Have a nice day.
RolStoppable said:
It's just a matter of math. By the end of March 2016, there was a normal amount of PS4s on store shelves. The same will hold true by the end of March 2017. So if Sony forecasts shipments of 20m units, they also need to sell through 20m units, because retailers aren't going to increase the stock they have sitting on their store shelves. The PS4 sold through 17.5m this calendar year, I guess 2-3m of that number were sold from January to March 2016. So for the currently running fiscal year, Sony has sold through 14.5-15.5m of their 20m goal. That leaves 4.5-5.5m for the January to March quarter which could only be attained by doubling the number of the previous year. That's unrealistic because the current momentum matches up closely with the one from one year ago, therefore at this point of the fiscal year the PS4 would have needed to be at least 1.5m higher than it actually is. |
Yeah, some people make the mistake of adding on extra consoles to get shipped figures. You only do this for initial shipment or if stock status changes.
Sony is going to miss it's PS4 forecast by a few million.

RolStoppable said:
55m+, otherwise their forecast for shipments wouldn't make any sense. |
So, you don't know. Ok.
Lawlight said:
So, you don't know. Ok. |
He's probably right, the forecast for shipments was made back in April if I recall. This was before Horizon and Gran Turismo were delayed to 2017, also they likely didn't predict Call of Duty would perform so badly this year.
Back in April they expected to sell more than 53.4m by the end of the year, but circumstances change.
Barkley said:
He's probably right, the forecast for shipments was made back in April if I recall. This was before Horizon and Gran Turismo were delayed to 2017, also they likely didn't predict Call of Duty would perform so badly this year. Back in April they expected to sell more than 53.4m by the end of the year, but circumstances change. |
But they did sell more than 53.4M - this is sell through number remember. So, shipped is probably more than 55M.
But what about the MAU? That is what I care about.
BraLoD said:
Or The Last of Us. |
It already outsold the last of us on PS3, it´s only fair to compare them after the PS5 got an Uncharted 4 remake
Please excuse my (probally) poor grammar