Guys. HE IS LITERALLY COMMENTING ON A RUMOR ABOUT IT'S POWER. He's not saying "Oh I got the Switch and it suuuuuuuuuxxxxxxxx". He's an Ex ubisoft employee, he's just commenting on the rumored specs. Rumored.
Guys. HE IS LITERALLY COMMENTING ON A RUMOR ABOUT IT'S POWER. He's not saying "Oh I got the Switch and it suuuuuuuuuxxxxxxxx". He's an Ex ubisoft employee, he's just commenting on the rumored specs. Rumored.
Egelo said:
let be real. Indie sized games will get ported. Old 6th 7th gen games will get easily ported. But there is no porting a big aaa games, they would have to make it from gorund up for the switch. |
I don't think big AAA games are what Switch is aiming to support anyways. Nintendo is a company that started in Japan, in Japan consoles, PS4 included, are selling rather poorly. So it makes so much sense for Nintendo to make a device that is a bit weak to be called a console and too powerful to be called a handheld, it's hybrid. It'll have aspects of both. It'll be able to handle most Japanese 3rd party games which are the only games that really sell on Nintendo consoles in Japan and in the USA. Anybody who thinks people are going to ditch PS and XB to play Gears of War or Uncharted on Nintendo platforms is insane. Those fans are set for the generation.
That being said, games don't have to be built from the ground up if they're developed in Unreal or Unity or any other engines that Switch supports. And I stand by the fact that AAA western games wouldn't sell on Nintendo consoles anyway.
| Darwinianevolution said: To be fair, there aren't that many big western AAA games that have the potential of selling well on the Switch. The only one I can think of is Skyrim, because it can catter to the Zelda userbase and it's the first portable TES game. This system will get tons of A-AA games (both western and eastern) and last gen remasters, which will be a big step from the WiiU's support. |
This is absurd.
Western AAA won't sell well on Switch. Oh, but last-gen remaster Western AAA will sell well.
Get real. If Skyrim will sell well, why the hell wouldn't Witcher 3 if it could run well?
The pathetic evasion and biased framing just reflects poorly on Switch. Tell it like it is, and let the chips fall where they may.
JRPGfan said:
They where lieing or talking out of their arses. If you have to redo the game from the ground up, to make a switch version..... yeah... no way is that easy. |
People just have nothing close to capacity to understand technical issues and so make inaccurate interpreations of surface wording.
Switch LIKE RECENT NINTENDO CONSOLES has straightforward architecture/standard GPU components, nothing exotic ala PS3 Cell.
That makes it "easy to dev for". If it can't handle core algorhythms and assets of Xbone/PS4, then it is "hard to directly port" because
of hard limitations of hardware, no matter how dev friendly the architecture is, that doesn't compensate for gross power differences.
| Veknoid_Outcast said: Better for Nintendo to remain self-sufficient than to adopt a design philosophy that would throw it into a self-destructive arms race with Sony and Microsoft, which have the deep pockets to subsidize expensive hardware and, frankly, need third parties much more desperately than Nintendo. |
Except Sony and Nintendo aren't subsidizing hardware at all, Sony will not even include BDXL/UHD drive over marginal $ difference.
The era of subsidized hardware has ended, but Nintendo never tried to take advantage of that to up it's game.
Reality is Nintendo is not just deciding to not compete directly, they don't even try to push what is capable WITHIN THEIR NICHE.
14nm is NOT cutting edge when 10nm is being introduced, it boosts performance 30% for same juice, but Nintendo can't manage it.
Nintendo can't try to leverage NVIDIA's latest products IN SAME TABLET NICHE, it relies on last-gen tablet tech on last-gen fab tech.
To be clear, modern tech there would not magically put it in par with Sony/MS, but would allow it to come closer to half way.
That might even allow some more porting from those platforms, even if with reduced performance.
To be clear, whatever Switch achieves in docked mode is irrelevant because games also need to run in portable mode,
thus that performance delta is the relevant one when assessing porting viability, docked mode is just frosting on top of that.
| superchunk said: I think many of you are focusing on specific words of various statements without considering the larger context. We've heard others say it is easy to port and dev, we've seen settings in unreal engine 4 that builds in each system automatically, now we've seen this dev who states direct ports not capable. Though this dev has also been in GAF saying that he hasn't done anything on NS and explaining what will need to be done to get a port to NS. |
I think YOU are missing that there is a difference in talking about GENERAL "difficulty to dev for" and engine compatability,
and porting SPECIFIC GAMES, i.e. AAA performance games built around Xbone/PS4 minspec, to a low spec plaform.
The topic this dev is reponding to is the latter one, and indeed it DOES have relevance for expectations of AAA ports as you bring up.
When people efending it as "OK, it can handle lastgen AAA fine" that is clear indication of the situation. Denial helps nobody.






mutantsushi said:
Except Sony and Nintendo aren't subsidizing hardware at all, Sony will not even include BDXL/UHD drive over marginal $ difference. |
That's fine, but I'm saying Nintendo doesn't need the ports to be successful. I believe it should invest in cheap hardware because that will allow it to sell Switch at a low cost and then make a lot of money on software and accessories.
So, sure, it could inch closer to Sony/MS, but what is the utility in doing so? Having a watered-down port of Assassin's Creed or Mass Effect isn't going to change the future of Switch. And Nintendo and Retro and Monolith Soft and Monster Games don't need the extra horsepower.
I mean, Nintendo went half-way with WiiU, getting close enough to the competition to get Black Flag, Black Ops II, etc. It was a waste. Fans who wanted those games already had places to play superior versions of them, and Nintendo fans weren't interested.
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
The most laughable part something i never said ? In my country we have a saying about people who laughs about nothing. Also i will save this comment for the future :D |
You didn't say it but you are clearly suggesting it and the last sentence of your coment kind of confirms it.
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
The most laughable part something i never said ? In my country we have a saying about people who laughs about nothing. Also i will save this comment for the future :D |
Ummmm........
"All the things point to another WiiU situation and another cycle will continue."
You should elaborate what you meant by this.
When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.
God I cant f**king wait for Jan 12th...
If it isn't turnbased it isn't worth playing
(mostly)
And shepherds we shall be,
For Thee, my Lord, for Thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, That our feet may swiftly carry out Thy command. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritūs Sancti. -----The Boondock Saints