The problem is how little the community cares. No one ever questioned it. The police were responsible for sorting out a MAJOR fraud. And later the publication venues did not even bother to apologize.

Look Gourmet. At least ask your father this. As a biologist, how can he possibly defend us releasing carbondioxide into the atmosphere in the amounts that we do, when this makes the oceans acidic? Doesn't he as a biologist give a flying f about the thousands of species that's not able to live in acidic conditions?

It's not like he defends it. He's not very political. His work today is completely unrelated. But I will ask him.

Shhh, those "facts" aren't really facts, they're just the opinion of some of the smartest people on Earth. Pfff climate change.

There's definitely signs of climate change but the cause has yet to be properly identified. Climate has been changing for as long as data has started to be collected - late 19th century so it could go back even further. If the cause is human-caused then I blame the countries with a fertility rate of more than 2.

The skeleton had already left the closet by then.

I can see that. I hope he gives you a good answer. :)

Fertility might decrease in those developed countries but population growth doesn't. The US's population has increased by a factor of 10 in the past 150 years. China doubled in the past 50 years. UK doubled in the past 100 years. Even Japan with its low fertility has seen an increase of 150% in its population over the past 100 years.

We do it the same way we can calculate an altitude average or basically any other average of a variable distributed over an area. With enough points, you can approximate a surface. Like you said, there are data gaps, and I provided a simplified version of the calculation. In more detail, to close as many data-gaps as possible, NASA uses a weighted average model that weights stations closer to unmeasured areas more heavily. Temperature isn't limited to a single mathematical point. You won't have square micro-meters next to eachother that vary wildly in temperature. That's not how physics work. Like I said, the difficult part is getting the measurements, not the actual mathematics related to calculating the averages.

But there have been some errors because of missing data from the arctic which resulted in there being more warming in the northern hemisphere than previously thought. Honestly, the actual warming itself is extremely well documented, so to contest it seems a bit silly to me.

I stay out of these threads on VGC for a multitude of reasons. Here's 2 of them. It's frustrating, for one. I hate engaging in discourse on the topic of Trump through the medium of forum posting. It is evocative of screaming into the void. And two, I try to avoid it so I remain as ignorant as possible as to who thinks what on this site. I'm not eagar to take sides and potentially alienate myself from people I rather like. I still won't look at any comments, but I will say this: I hope this fucking pig dies soon. It brings to mind an old-timey Simpsons reference. Patty and Selma thought Homer had died, and presented to Marge a tombstone they had prepared in anticipation, well in advance.




I can't stand him, and it blows my mind that people find him defensible, even as a celebrity mouthpiece, much less as the President of the US. He's such a shit for brains it hurts.

Hope we can still VGComrades :)