Trump: 'Nobody Really Knows' If Climate Change Is Real

[Lawlight]

the-pi-guy said:

Lawlight said:
There's definitely signs of climate change but the cause has yet to be properly identified. Climate has been changing for as long as data has started to be collected - late 19th century so it could go back even further. If the cause is human-caused then I blame the countries with a fertility rate of more than 2.

We are actually able to perform experiments on this.  We know what CO2 does.  There's no doubt about it.  We can test it in labs or at home.  There are tons of factors that affect climate, but seeing as most of those factors are actually low right now; they are clearly not what's causing the change.  We can create models based on all those things.  

The countries that have a fertility rate of more than 2 are actually not the problem.  Those countries aren't very rich or industrialized.  The more industrialized countries, firstly have a rate around 2 or even a little lower for some of them, and secondly burn oil and coal to heat and power cars, houses, skyscrapers, and everything else.  

Fertility rate drops when countries get richer.  CO2 production conversely increases.  

Gourmet said:

The skeleton had already left the closet by then.

And conversely, climate is not in a closet.  It is open and free to anyone who wants to study it.  So, even easier for fraud to be detected.  

Fertility might decrease in those developed countries but population growth doesn't. The US's population has increased by a factor of 10 in the past 150 years. China doubled in the past 50 years. UK doubled in the past 100 years. Even Japan with its low fertility has seen an increase of 150% in its population over the past 100 years.