It is partly their fault (developers that is), not sure why Nintendo should be blamed for everything. 

You tell me with a straight face that the 3DS, which has some more than every Sony system in Japan and the Famicom and Super Famicom and Wii really has been given a fair shake by the Japanese development community. 

I would say no. I actually wouldn't play FFXV on Switch even if they make it, but I don't want the Japanese industry to be iOS/Android and nothing but, and that's where it's going, and that's what I don't want to see. 

Aight, thought the Op didn't deserve the attention it got but here goes...

Anyone able to cough up some of the attach rates out of this one and XIII?
Seems Famitsu has it selling 716,649 games first week. No digital included of course.

How many copies were sold through digital? Do you know if Japanese have embraced digital over physical, where the west is ever hesitant to make the turn? 

So, again, how many copies has it sold through digital, in Japan?

PS4 sales of XV in Japan highlight a lot actually especially for a heavy weight series like FF which was once one of the only franchises that could go blow for blow with DQ over there. It highlights that the decline in consoles is significant enough to impact heavyweight franchises, DQXI was confirmed for Switch long before the platform was even officially announced, the were even people on this very board trying to down play it as the developer mispeaking.

This says flat out highlights the confidence in a device with portable gaming over a home console because at one point DQXI was meant to be a console only game then was revealed to have a 3DS version with a Switch (at the time still called NX) version confirmed with it. It tells me they may have expected PS4 to push home console gaming in Japan a lot more than it has managed.

Pretty much, I think a lot of developers saw strong PS4 sales early in the West and thought "oh hey, so maybe the PS2 era is coming back". 

Yep ... not in Japan boys. Not with a home console it ain't. That's not a knock on Sony, they tried. The results just aren't there.

The only video game hardware people in Japan are willing to buy en masse are Nintendo portables. And that's it. That's reality, you can deny that as a developer, but you may as well then just make up your own sales numbers and profit totals because you're living in lala land. 

FF is a WW franchise. We haven't even got the WW sales, yet people are calling this a disaster. Please. First of all, there is no guarantee that if FFXV was 3DS exclusive, it would have sold better in Japan. Thinking otherwise is just hopeful wishing. I'm sure if it sold the same, or worse, Nintendo fans would be saying, "best debut of a Nintendo FF, SE should stay." Secondly, while we don't know how well it would do in Japan, but I can guarantee you, it's WW numbers would be MUCH worse. Core FF fans outside of Japan (and probably many within Japan), do not want to play their next mainline FF on a HH with near PS2 graphical power.

lonerism said: What kind of thread is this?

Not a port beg, but a franchise beg. The disappointing sales of FFXV in Japan on PS4 are supposed to translate to wild (and very unproven) success if S/E opted to go with Nintendo handhelds instead. This is of course based off absolutely nothing. OP thinks the series is better off with Xenoblade Chronicles numbers if they pulled a move like this.

Nintendo is also supposed to save traditional video gaming in Japan with the Switch. Nevermind the fact that mobile has been eating into their sales and they've joined the mobile herd themselves. Basically, reasons. This will go on for many more pages.

You don't seem to be understanding the very post your quoting it's not about DQ it's about the decline of home consoles you seem only focused on DQXI while ignoring the overall context of the post, as for the bold part the developer had confirmed a year or so before the unveiling that DQXI was aimed to be a console game, people for months were saying the would never be a 3DS version as a result, how wrong they were.

DQXI was also annouced around the time NX was only being made aware to investors in the investors meeting (maybe even before that) so it's very unlikely DQXI was always going to be a NX game because it would have still only been a concept back then that no developer would have either known about or had any idea on the type of hardware.

This is exactly it, it's not a knock on Sony as some are taking it it's in fact a signal of how the market is over there if they can't change the fortunes of home consoles over there then it means the only thing that can is a console like portable device.

If FF can't turn things around there then that confirms homes consoles are in their current declined position for the long haul, DQ was the only other thing but already made the jump back with DQIX and MH has tried several times and got blown out, the consumers there just aren't into home consoles as much anymore.

What about worldwide sales and digital sales included ?

How much FF13 sold worldwide ?