i had 5 360s including Xbox 360 S and the next one, i had 3 white/black models (Jasper and Elite), i had well over 120 games for it (Physical and Digital), i bought shitloads of MS points to buy themes, avatar and change GT, i used to change alot lool at least 7 times i did it, i bought Xbox Live Gold for 60e during 9/10 years and on OG Xbox i had over 50 games and also bought Xbox Live and stuff but not as much as on 360, i had the wirless adapter (3), i had over 10 controllers, i had over 10 mics wich broke all the time and they cost me 20e plus shipping, i bought kinect for my gf back then and a 360 aswell so that was expensive too in 2010 and some casual games for her like Kinect Sports and Kinect Dance Central or whatever it was named. 

So yeah i believe in that 20K figure but i might be wrong, i don´t remember the costs of most of the games but i know many i bought for 63.99e oh both OG Xbox and 360, had well over 180 games combined (Digital included and NOT COUTING GOLD FREE GAMES). 

2 of the consoles cost me 449e as they were bundled back in 2005/06 with Call of duty 2 and Pes 6, the other 3 were around 299e i think !? or 349e? don´t remember properly but it might be it. 

oh and i´m sorry but forgot to say all the Astro and Turtle beach phones i bought over the years, new models and such, i had ones wich cost me 200e back then and all the others were around thar price, it´s not microsoft stuff but i used them on 360.

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Not overblown at all if you take some things into consideration.

UK is one of like 3/4 markets that the XB1 at least doesmt respectably compared to the PS4. 

Sales of the PS4 to XB1 in the UK has never been lopsided. 

The XB1 (regardless of how good it has seemed to be doing these last 3 months) didn't just lose this week, it lost ut by more than it has ever lost a BF week to the PS4 and it's also down by 30% YOY while the PS4 manager to be up. 

The UK and NA markets are usually very similar. Suggesting that if sony won in the UK by such a margin then they could win NA by something similar too. 

but yh, let's see how swles for the US are. 

Those XB1 sales are.... bad, to put it lightly.

PS4 is okay, could definitely be better.

A few weeks ago on PS4 Pro Launch it was 65k PS4 to 45k XB1. The launch of course would overinflate the numbers for PS4, and it still is 119% up and up yoy, while XB1 is only 105% up and down yoy.

I wonder how the US will compare.

Pretty good all around.

Amazing Xbox numbers! PS4 ehhh.
Pokemon beasting up the chartz!!!!!!!!

MS fans are getting really antsy...

Nice. Can't wait for North American sales numbers!

Huh?

PS4 - 142,578
Xbox One - 92,578

I think numbers for both XB1 and PS4 are healthy. Pokémon as well of course.

I think people are forgetting what makes a black friday deal.... bundles.

Sony had great bundles. They were practically giving the console away for FREE.

MS had abysmal bundles. The cheapest bundle only gave away Minecraft and Forza... on the PS4, you had Uncharted 4 and Fifa...

MS must have not wanted to take the profit hit which is why they didn't have good deals.