bunchanumbers said:
COKTOE said:
Ok. I will grant you Hydro Thunder and SF Rush. But those Cruis'n games? Your list just fell off a cliff, and it was a short trip. They were, objectively, technical garbage. And just not good on N64. At all. Widely panned, and deservedly so. I liked the arcade Cruis'n USA a fair amount. And although they were better on N64, PS1 had Hydro Thunder and SF Rush as well. I'll also raise you 2 Ridge Racer games, 2 stellar Wipeout games, 2 Destruction Derby games, whatever the excellent Namco Rally game was called, Need For Speed.....I could go on. It's lockdown territory for the PS1 in this genre. Besides I was only talking about technical prowess. My mind boggles that Gran Turismo is not a hands down winner in that capacity. It's weird to argue this, because N64 was a slight fav for me, but I always see "N64 was the most powerful, bleep-blorp" in some capacity, and nobody says boo. Should have made it a thread. Oh well.
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Oh come on. I'm just saying that the N64 racer library wasn't that bad. And it wasn't. Excite Bike, Mario Kart 64, Wave Race 64, 1080 Snowboarding along with Diddy Kong Racing show that the N64 wasn't a slouch in the racing department. I'm not saying that it was the definitive place for racing but it certainly wasn't a slouch. Although I am fine with saying that GT 2 was the best racer of that gen. I don't think it got topped until Forza came.
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I'm not saying it was a slouch. I stand by my harsh appraisal of the Cruis'n games. Just saying I think the PS1 had, for whatever reason, the more technically impressive ( graphics, and yeah, sound too ) driving games. And fighting. And RPG's. And my post did say driving games. 1080 was fucking awesome, but c'mon man. It was a snowboarding game. Better than all the lame-ass Cool Boarders put together. And really? The perfect example of a game that COULD NOT be done on the PS1. One of the most uniquely beautiful games of the gen. Even the soundtrack was awesome. Bassy. Robust. Rock and techno. So yeah. I'm playing devil's advocate here, because the PS1 almost never, maybe never never, gets it props it the juice department in VGC land. There are valid points on both sides. I think N64 had the better action-adventure games, and better FPS games on a tech level. SM64, The Banjo games, Conker, Turok 2, Perfect Dark, Goldeneye, Doom 64, Quake 2, The World Is Not Enough. All somehow way prettier than their PS1 contemporaries. It's so strange to me how genre by genre, one system would mollywhop the other. It's 3:40 am here. Time to start thinking about-thinking about going to bed. Fun times tomorrow. :)