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Ronster316 said:
Soundwave said:

And hiring billionaires to head key department positions and letting lobbyists into his team? Is that also just business as usual? 

This guy is just a typical slimy self serving billionaire with the temperament of a teenage pop star, the only difference is I don't think he even really wants the job. 

He doesn't really want the job?

He's been considering running for president since 1988, hardly the actions of a man who doesn't want the job.

I think he likes the *idea* of being president more than the actual work of being president. 

Being president is not an easy job, nor is it "fun" or glamourous on a daily basis. Sure there are state dinners and photo ops, but this is nothing special to Trump, he already has things like this in his life. If anything moving into the White House is actually a downgrade for him (no gold plated chairs and marble dining tables). 

He is incredibly thin skinned, he is going to have problems I think going through periods where he is unliked by both sides of the aisle, all presidents have to go through that. 

I don't think he really has any really strong convictions on much of anything either. He basically changes his opinion on things every 15 minutes depending on what seems to be the mood in the room at the time. 



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Soundwave said:
Ronster316 said:

He doesn't really want the job?

He's been considering running for president since 1988, hardly the actions of a man who doesn't want the job.

I think he likes the *idea* of being president more than the actual work of being president. 

Being president is not an easy job, nor is it "fun" or glamourous on a daily basis. Sure there are state dinners and photo ops, but this is nothing special to Trump, he already has things like this in his life. If anything moving into the White House is actually a downgrade for him (no gold plated chairs and marble dining tables). 

He is incredibly thin skinned, he is going to have problems I think going through periods where he is unliked by both sides of the aisle, all presidents have to go through that. 

Though i will agree that his temprament can be called in to question from time to time, i have no doubt he wants this....... when you compare how many rallies Trump did compared to Hillary, the difference is night and day, he was like a trojan horse on the campaign trail, sometimes 3 or 4 rallys a day, 6 days a week.i think he wants this, but for those who don't think so, thats fair enough.



Ronster316 said:
Soundwave said:

I think he likes the *idea* of being president more than the actual work of being president. 

Being president is not an easy job, nor is it "fun" or glamourous on a daily basis. Sure there are state dinners and photo ops, but this is nothing special to Trump, he already has things like this in his life. If anything moving into the White House is actually a downgrade for him (no gold plated chairs and marble dining tables). 

He is incredibly thin skinned, he is going to have problems I think going through periods where he is unliked by both sides of the aisle, all presidents have to go through that. 

Though i will agree that his temprament can be called in to question from time to time, i have no doubt he wants this....... when you compare how many rallies Trump did compared to Hillary, the difference is night and day, he was like a trojan horse on the campaign trail, sometimes 3 or 4 rallys a day, 6 days a week.i think he wants this, but for those who don't think so, thats fair enough.

He likes the rallies. He likes being on a stage and having people cheer for him, it's the ultimate narcissist boner. 

Being president isn't about that though. That's the easy part. Campaigning is the easy part, governing is much, much more difficult. 



A lot of the "people" who voted for this guy were gun toting "revolutionist" types and pissing them off is a bad idea. Watching this asshole crash and burn is going to be entertaining.



Our country is the struggle right now. But happy thanksgiving.



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Soundwave said:
Ronster316 said:

Though i will agree that his temprament can be called in to question from time to time, i have no doubt he wants this....... when you compare how many rallies Trump did compared to Hillary, the difference is night and day, he was like a trojan horse on the campaign trail, sometimes 3 or 4 rallys a day, 6 days a week.i think he wants this, but for those who don't think so, thats fair enough.

He likes the rallies. He likes being on a stage and having people cheer for him, it's the ultimate narcissist boner. 

Being president isn't about that though. That's the easy part. Campaigning is the easy part, governing is much, much more difficult. 

At his age, he didn't need all of this...... yet another factor as to why i think he took this on for all the right reasons.



Politicians lying is pretty standard fare. The vast majority do it. Don't act surprised trump did too.



Kerotan said:
Politicians lying is pretty standard fare. The vast majority do it. Don't act surprised trump did too.

Its a different story though when his campaign was about how crooked Washington is and how he is going to drain the swamp. It flies right in the face of what he was supposedly about.



Ronster316 said:
Soundwave said:

He likes the rallies. He likes being on a stage and having people cheer for him, it's the ultimate narcissist boner. 

Being president isn't about that though. That's the easy part. Campaigning is the easy part, governing is much, much more difficult. 

At his age, he didn't need all of this...... yet another factor as to why i think he took this on for all the right reasons.

The campaign he wanted to do. He wasn't getting the money he wanted from NBC to re-up for the Apprentice. Then he got through the primaries by saying crazy stuff and and he could see building a TV/cult personality brand from all the supporters he was getting. He can smell a business oppurtunity from 2 miles away. He didn't expect to actually win though. 

This is like flirting with a girl, having a fun one-night stand, but then fast forwarding to her becoming pregnant. The flirting (saying a lot of bullshit you don't intend to follow up on) and having sex (campaigning) is the fun part. Actually raising a baby and dealing with a pregnant girlfriend ... not so easy. There's a huge lot of baggage there now that perhaps one didn't bank on getting into. 

And you're right he doesn't need this, but I disagree about this being for the "right" reasons. He's an oppurtunist sales-man who has gotten himself in way over his head and now is going to have do something he has no experience or training for, which is going to require a level of thought, research, scrutiny, and work ethic he is not accustomed to. There is not much glamour in the day to day mechanics of actually being a politican, and yes he is a politican now. 

The other thing that concerns me about him is he doesn't seem to have any conviction on many of his positions. One day he's a hard liner, the next day depending on who's around him, he's suddenly "Teddy Bear Trump" and wants to be liked. I don't believe he has the mental I.Q. for this job in the most blunt terms. He's a giant baby that needs to be coddled, even his own advisers said that he would not listen to their advice unless he heard it through the TV, because he's obsessed with TV coverage. So they would have to "leak" things to TV reporters so they would report it back to Trump to get him to listen. 



Soundwave said:
Ronster316 said:

At his age, he didn't need all of this...... yet another factor as to why i think he took this on for all the right reasons.

The campaign he wanted to do. He wasn't getting the money he wanted from NBC to re-up for the Apprentice. Then he got through the primaries by saying crazy stuff and and he could see building a TV/cult personality brand from all the supporters he was getting. He can smell a business oppurtunity from 2 miles away. He didn't expect to actually win though. 

This is like flirting with a girl, having a fun one-night stand, but then fast forwarding to her becoming pregnant. There's a huge lot of baggage there now that perhaps one didn't bank on getting into. 

And you're right he doesn't need this, but I disagree about this being for the "right" reasons. He's an oppurtunist sales-man who has gotten himself in way over his head and now is going to have do something he has no experience or training for, which is going to require a level of thought, research, scrutiny, and work ethic he is not accustomed to. There is not much glamour in the day to day mechanics of actually being a politican, and yes he is a politican now. 

The other thing that concerns me about him is he doesn't seem to have any conviction on many of his positions. One day he's a hard liner, the next day depending on who's around him, he's suddenly "Teddy Bear Trump" and wants to be liked. I don't believe he has the mental I.Q. for this job in the most blunt terms. He's a giant baby that needs to be coddled, even his own advisers said that he would not listen to their advice unless he heard it through the TV, because he's obsessed with TV coverage. So they would have to "leak" things to TV reporters so they would report it back to Trump to get him to listen. 

I gotta agree. To me it seems like he was bluffing and America called his bluff. He is already disinterested in being president and he is using the office to further his own business interests. Oddly enough this might be the best case scenario. At best we can pray for a lame duck presidency. At worse it will be either civil or world war.