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kitler53 on 29 November 2016
Miyamotoo said:
kitler53 said:
seems too expensive to do all that great to me.

unless third parties are holding off until after the nintendo reveal we've already seen dozens of ps4/xbone games not get announced for NS. $250 would be competitive at least for a home console even if it is half the power as xbone and half a generation late,.. but as a handheld it is too expensive. and at this point this looks to be more of a handheld then a console as far as a games library is concerned.

it will do okay but i still think NS will have a LTD somewhat less than the 3DS. not the "gamechanger" that so many here wish this device to be.

Its home console also, same like its a handheld, its bouth and thats big plus not minus. Switch 1st year lineup looks killer for now, we talking about biggest Nintendo IPs in 1st year of Switch.

if it doesn't play RDR2, or GTA, or AC, or BF, or CoD, FF, or RE, or ME, or ect. then it isn't a home console...  it's a portable with tv out.

so far NS's first year line up is so far make mostly of wiiU ports,.. that's not a killer line-up.  there are reasons that almost the entire gamer market passed on the wiiU and a lack of a compelling line-up of games is one of them.



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numberwang on 29 November 2016

250$€ is okay with the dock included, you could charge 299 if it had a boost mode that brings it towards X1/PS4 levels. 199$ for a basic set with the mobile unit only is also quite intriguing for a pure handheld device.



Miyamotoo on 29 November 2016
kitler53 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Its home console also, same like its a handheld, its bouth and thats big plus not minus. Switch 1st year lineup looks killer for now, we talking about biggest Nintendo IPs in 1st year of Switch.

if it doesn't play RDR2, or GTA, or AC, or BF, or CoD, FF, or RE, or ME, or ect. then it isn't a home console...  it's a portable with tv out.

so far NS's first year line up is so far make mostly of wiiU ports,.. that's not a killer line-up.  there are reasons that almost the entire gamer market passed on the wiiU and a lack of a compelling line-up of games is one of them.

So if dont have RDR2, GTA, BF or FF, than its not home console!? Than guess Nintendo never didn't had home console. :)  Switch plays Skyrim, NBA 2K and Just Dance 2017, Zelda BotW, MK8 and Splatoon, those are games we know for now for sure, those are all home consoles games not handheld games.

Wii U ports of great games in combination with brand new games like 3D Mario, Zelda BotW, Pokemon...make killer Switch 1st year line up for ever person who didn't had Wii U. Almost entire gaming market pass Wii U beacuse has too many big problems, and actually one of those problems was weak launch and 1st year line up with terrible software droughts, in comparison Switch rumoured 1st year lineup is incomparible stronger, just new 3D Mario is much stronger than anything Wii U had in whole 1st year, not to mention new 3D Zelda.



Zoombael on 29 November 2016
Wyrdness said:
torok said:

However, the New 3DS isn't the only option since people can still buy the older model or the 2DS as budget options. Also mind that 3DS isn't exactly on fire right now, it sold around 4M according to VGC and will end up the year way above X1 (MS will kill during Nov/Dec) and PS4, even if it is a portable that had options for 100 bucks during BF.

Nintendo needs to know where they want to place this product. If it is a portable, 250 is the same pricing that almost killed the 3DS. It's basically repeating the same mistake again. If it is a more like a Wii U successor, then the price point is OK if they believe that it can go against PS4 and X1. Honestly, I see it as being more adequate as a portable or as a secondary console. Both cases demand a lower price point.

Also, 250 is not a good price point. It's almost a repackaged Shield tablet. Why would it be more expensive when it will pack a lower resolution screen that can even lack touch? When we remove the dock, it really can't be more expensive that the Shield. "Oh but it's an hybrid". And? It hardly can be called and hybrid. It's like a tablet with an HDMI port that you connect to a TV. Add a controller and it's almost the same stuff. It's superbly packed and integrated, but really it shouldn't add a lot of costs.

And yes, the New 3DS price point is pretty much a rip-off. It costs as much as a Vita, that's way more powerful, it costs as much as a Shield tablet, that simply obliterates it in every single spec. If they want to start the Switch selling it as a ridiculously overpriced product, it's their call. Just don't expect people to fall for it. That's why I don't buy this rumour. They can't be that... dense. Horrible pricing was also one of Wii U's reason for its downfall.

One extra reason to be cheap is mobile. Let's face it, handhelds are on life support right now. People simply prefer to pay nothign extra to play on the go. They just want some quick distraction when on the bus, train, etc. Home console aren't affected because playing a high-end game life BF1 with amazing graphics and 64-player online is way above what a mobile phone can do. Handhelds are not that much of an improvement. Specially when you factor in that it's basically a big cost to just have something to do on a 30 minutes time gap. It has to be cheap. Dirty cheap, as much as possible. Phones are killing it because, even if they are more expensive, it's something that you already has, so the cost is zero. Also, they fit in yout pocket, so no need to carry a backpack.

It does stuff that a PS4 or X1 doesn't, mainly being portable. However, PS4 and X1 do a lot of stuff Switch doesn't: they have 3 years of games, full 3rd party support, better graphics, etc. It's a big list, while Switch only has the benefit of portability and that's something that people aren't caring that much. It can't compete directly with the twins, that's suicide. It has to be cheap.

Why do people always make this misconception, the price point was not what gave 3DS problems it still sold fine what gave it problems was consumer confusion and the early drought and even then it still sold along the lines of 6m in those few months. As pointed out earlier PSP launched at that exact same price point and did perfectly fine.

 

The PSP launched in what year? 2005? Times change.

Of course the pricing was mainly responsible. Next to the rise of smartphones. Why else the massive and sudden price cut? Shortly after mentioned price cut the sales recorvered btw.

Interestingly, people werent confused about the Gameboy Pocket, Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance.



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Soundwave on 29 November 2016

It can be a "home console" ... it's just a mediocre home console, Sony and MS control the home console market now.

Nintendo either needed a new break through fad controller or competetive hardware, which it doesn't look like they really have.

This will sell to the same 20 million hardcore Nintendo fans that are willing to buy a Nintendo console, but for "home console" usage everyone else is buying a Playstation or XBox.

The main audience here is the 3DS audience, by creating a hybrid device, Nintendo can at least get some of them (and most Wii U owners own a 3DS, so they are already in that crowd).

I think as someone else mentioned above Switch will still sell under the 3DS because the portable market is shrinking, but at least that's a still somewhat viable audience for Nintendo.



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Wyrdness on 29 November 2016
Zoombael said:

 

The PSP launched in what year? 2005? Times change.

Of course the pricing was mainly responsible. Next to the rise of smartphones. Why else the massive and sudden price cut? Shortly after mentioned price cut the sales recorvered btw.

Interestingly, people werent confused about the Gameboy Pocket, Gameboy Color and Gameboy Advance.

What a poor argument it's clear you didn't even read the second post either, the price cut happened and sales spiked for only two weeks then returned to the usual levels for another 2-3 months, this flat out says pricing was never the actual issue. Do you know what caused sales to rise again, the release of software after 3D Land released the was a steady flow of releases which made the platform appealing.

As for the PSP well the NES launched in the 80s guess what consoles are still going today, Gameboy Color and Advance are far easier to diferentiate than the name 3DS especially as they were advertized from the start.



superchunk on 29 November 2016
Soundwave said:

It can be a "home console" ... it's just a mediocre home console, Sony and MS control the home console market now.

Nintendo either needed a new break through fad controller or competetive hardware, which it doesn't look like they really have.

This will sell to the same 20 million hardcore Nintendo fans that are willing to buy a Nintendo console, but for "home console" usage everyone else is buying a Playstation or XBox.

The main audience here is the 3DS audience, by creating a hybrid device, Nintendo can at least get some of them (and most Wii U owners own a 3DS, so they are already in that crowd).

I think as someone else mentioned above Switch will still sell under the 3DS because the portable market is shrinking, but at least that's a still somewhat viable audience for Nintendo.

Except this will be replacing the portable line as well which has a 80MM fanbase.

Japan doesn't want home consoles, so this will kill off PS4 support there (assuming 3rd parties support, which the will).

3DS is selling well at $200.

NS is goign to smash at $250 considering it will get the home console games plus the portable games. Even for home consoles, this will be heavily individualized (like 3ds and other portables) so families will be more than one. (I plan on getting at least two at launch)

NS is potential 100MM seller given:

1) $250 starting price or less
2) 3rd party support (not 100%, but heavy on staples like FIFA/Madden/COD/etc)
3) 3DS is shelved in 2017 and 100% of portable software goes to NS



NobleTeam360 on 29 November 2016

Good price.



Nautilus on 29 November 2016
kitler53 said:
Miyamotoo said:

Its home console also, same like its a handheld, its bouth and thats big plus not minus. Switch 1st year lineup looks killer for now, we talking about biggest Nintendo IPs in 1st year of Switch.

if it doesn't play RDR2, or GTA, or AC, or BF, or CoD, FF, or RE, or ME, or ect. then it isn't a home console...  it's a portable with tv out.

so far NS's first year line up is so far make mostly of wiiU ports,.. that's not a killer line-up.  there are reasons that almost the entire gamer market passed on the wiiU and a lack of a compelling line-up of games is one of them.

So the Wii, Wii U wasnt a home console?Or the gamecube too by the way, since it also missed some big third party titles.That line of thinking is just beyond flawed.Not to mention the fact that it may, and I stress the word may, get some of those titles.For all we know, Nintendo NDA is what is holding most developers from talking about if they are bringing their titles to the Switch.And with Betesda on board, Take 2 talking good things about the Switch, Skyrim comming, we WILL see some of them on the Switch.At the very least on the first year.

As for the ports, they are being ported to the Switch due to the exact reason you just listed:The people who missed the Wii U.For them, this first year is looking absolutely phenomenal.Nintendo is more worried, first and foremost, in bringing the 3DS owners AND non-Nintendo gamers to the Switch.Wii U owners will have things to play(Mario, Zelda, hopefully Pikmin 4, and others games that werent announced), but the focus arent on them.



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NightDragon83 on 29 November 2016

I'd be shocked if the Switch launched at $249. That would be a steal IMHO. I was expecting them to launch at $299 with a pack in, unless Nintendo plans on introducing multiple SKUs.



On 2/24/13, MB1025 said:
You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.