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As someone who has lived in that country for years, rape laws are definitely a problem. Otherwise, the actual place is really not bad for tourists. The same rules don't apply to tourists as they do for residents, and local citizens usually get away with doing whatever they want.



    

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LadyJasmine said:
People go to Dubai as its like Las Vegas but minus the 'sin' however for Westerners you have to be very careful how you act.

There are tons of weeks British expats living in dubai and have been for about a decade. you don't need to be extra careful or anymore careful. it's not like you won't very raped, mugged, harmed in any other country. 

 

The difference comes with laws. like travelling to any country it is good to know what the laws are and what to stay away from. I had a Sikh friend who was going to move to the Dominican Republic. he fiance moved first, got robbed and killed for a motorbike by a local cartel and the police did nothing but giving them a telling of for flashing cash which they weren't. after everything that family went through it was the least helpful thing. 

 

Having said that,this doesn't mean the UAE should be using crazy made up laws.



Um try being a women and going to those countries and then say they are not different from any other country lol



Fei-Hung said:
bonzobanana said:

That sounds like a twisted explanation. Makes it sound like the ottoman empire was not warlike and commiting horrible atrocities, like the ethic cleansing of millions of people that may have inspired Hitler. 

The issue here is the religion which treats women as inferiors which effects everything including justice. It would have been the same in the ottoman empire or Saudi Arabia and you hear the same issues going on in most muslim countries.  Basically male muslims are the highest form of human and everyone else is below it.  The pecking order was probably important. If it had been a muslim woman raped by christian men or a muslim man sexually assaulted by muslim women they probably would have done something.  If your higher up the pecking order you get to abuse all those below you.

I remember hearing that when you visit Dubai you occasionally come across very arroggent male locals who may push you aside and not care about being extremely rude and dis-courteous and the advice was just keep your head down.  Many of the workers building property in Dubai are basically slaves in all but name only.  It's a different culture without equality.

Still saying that Dubai looks incredible and I'd love to visit there. 

You missed the point entirely, which most people who dislike and have a twisted view of the faith do. 

 

The point was that the Arabs left in charge picked by the British follow a twisted version of Islam. it's not mainstream Islam, it's their own version which is built entirely to support them and them alone. their laws often clash against Muslim beliefs and under Islamic ruling their punishments would be wrong. 

 

Your version of what Italian is and what Muslims are is just as twisted add them. you only further empower these idiots by giving their twisted views credibility. 

What do you mean the koran has been worked out at about 61% text against unbelievers often horribly killing them where as goodwill text is about 2.6%.

There is no denial by me. It's the same crap you get in the christian faith.  I don't remember any sermon when I was a kid about killing people, cutting off their foreskins and giving them as a gift but its in the old testament. 

Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired, David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

When people believe this nonsense its not much of a stretch for them to be selective about what they are going to believe and what they deny. They have already denied reality so they can shape their reality however they want. None of the abrahamic religions are religions of peace.  

The koran is surely closer to the extremist views its just modern thinking muslims like most people want to live in peace and have children that outlive them and don't die in horrible wars.  So they take a more casual approach to religion or simply deny the darkness of it.



Ka-pi96 said:
deskpro2k3 said:
i find it strange that most of the replies here is focus on bashing the country, rather than those two english men.

Why is that strange? It`s because of the country that the woman was arrested (which is absolutely ridiculous), it will likely be because of the country that those men get away with it and it may well have been because of the country that they did in the first place (knowing that they could get away with it).

Usually the victim gets support to help them get past it rather than being punished and possibly executed for it. Not only that but the government there are facilitating rape to happen and to continue to happen rather than doing whatever they can to stop it.

 

how do we know the woman is telling the truth anyways, and there is even reports of many fake claims too. but nope lets bash the country instead right.



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Left wing socialist political correctness in Europe and America has granted women and minority groups more freedom but that has came at a huge cost to society. High debt levels, high tax rates, high unemployment rates come with the socialist agenda that is pushed in the western world. Middle East has low debt levels, low tax rates, low unemployment rates and strong capitalist economies with conservative laws.



barneystinson69 said:
LurkerJ said:
Trump's victory is inducing sexism and racism spikes everywhere, clearly.

Is this sarcasm?

I think not, some people are that ignorant.



deskpro2k3 said:
i find it strange that most of the replies here is focus on bashing the country, rather than those two english men.

Perhaps because we don't know who are the people and that independent of who they are their behavior is despicable... but encarcerating someone as having non-marital sex when the person was raped is completely bonkers, but you preffer to concentrate on the unknow guys and the woman possibly be lying.



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DonFerrari said:
deskpro2k3 said:
i find it strange that most of the replies here is focus on bashing the country, rather than those two english men.

Perhaps because we don't know who are the people and that independent of who they are their behavior is despicable... but encarcerating someone as having non-marital sex when the person was raped is completely bonkers, but you preffer to concentrate on the unknow guys and the woman possibly be lying.

 

Ka-pi96 said:
deskpro2k3 said:

 

how do we know the woman is telling the truth anyways, and there is even reports of many fake claims too. but nope lets bash the country instead right.

So now it`s gone to bashing the woman? Yeah.... makes much more sense to bash the country. It doesn`t even matter if she`s lying or not, she at least deserves to have the case properly investigated and not just `oh you might be lying so we`re just going to execute you` that`s just a pathetic justice system.

 

I condemn the act of rape, but I'm not going condemn anyone or an entire country without any factual evidence okay. I hope I made myself clear on that.



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deskpro2k3 said:
DonFerrari said:

Perhaps because we don't know who are the people and that independent of who they are their behavior is despicable... but encarcerating someone as having non-marital sex when the person was raped is completely bonkers, but you preffer to concentrate on the unknow guys and the woman possibly be lying.

 

Ka-pi96 said:

So now it`s gone to bashing the woman? Yeah.... makes much more sense to bash the country. It doesn`t even matter if she`s lying or not, she at least deserves to have the case properly investigated and not just `oh you might be lying so we`re just going to execute you` that`s just a pathetic justice system.

 

I condemn the act of rape, but I'm not going condemn anyone or an entire country without any factual evidence okay. I hope I made myself clear on that.

So why did Dubai arrest the woman after she reported the rape instead of investigating her claim first and then, arrest her if she was lying? You should not be condoning a country that, in your words, condemn a woman without any factual evidence.