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bonzobanana on 19 November 2016
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Fei-Hung said:
bonzobanana said:

That sounds like a twisted explanation. Makes it sound like the ottoman empire was not warlike and commiting horrible atrocities, like the ethic cleansing of millions of people that may have inspired Hitler. 

The issue here is the religion which treats women as inferiors which effects everything including justice. It would have been the same in the ottoman empire or Saudi Arabia and you hear the same issues going on in most muslim countries.  Basically male muslims are the highest form of human and everyone else is below it.  The pecking order was probably important. If it had been a muslim woman raped by christian men or a muslim man sexually assaulted by muslim women they probably would have done something.  If your higher up the pecking order you get to abuse all those below you.

I remember hearing that when you visit Dubai you occasionally come across very arroggent male locals who may push you aside and not care about being extremely rude and dis-courteous and the advice was just keep your head down.  Many of the workers building property in Dubai are basically slaves in all but name only.  It's a different culture without equality.

Still saying that Dubai looks incredible and I'd love to visit there. 

You missed the point entirely, which most people who dislike and have a twisted view of the faith do. 

 

The point was that the Arabs left in charge picked by the British follow a twisted version of Islam. it's not mainstream Islam, it's their own version which is built entirely to support them and them alone. their laws often clash against Muslim beliefs and under Islamic ruling their punishments would be wrong. 

 

Your version of what Italian is and what Muslims are is just as twisted add them. you only further empower these idiots by giving their twisted views credibility. 

What do you mean the koran has been worked out at about 61% text against unbelievers often horribly killing them where as goodwill text is about 2.6%.

There is no denial by me. It's the same crap you get in the christian faith.  I don't remember any sermon when I was a kid about killing people, cutting off their foreskins and giving them as a gift but its in the old testament. 

Then Saul said, “Thus shall you say to David, ‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king’s enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king’s son-in-law. Before the time had expired, David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king’s son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife.

When people believe this nonsense its not much of a stretch for them to be selective about what they are going to believe and what they deny. They have already denied reality so they can shape their reality however they want. None of the abrahamic religions are religions of peace.  

The koran is surely closer to the extremist views its just modern thinking muslims like most people want to live in peace and have children that outlive them and don't die in horrible wars.  So they take a more casual approach to religion or simply deny the darkness of it.