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walsufnir said:
Miyamotoo said:

Of Course, but fact is that modern Switch hardware and tech makes things easier compared to Wii or Wii U for instance.

"easier" is not easy. Don't expect many ports. I tell you, don't. I know now is the time where hope rules, it always before a console launch, and NVidia is not helping here either, but from a technical point of view, there is no magic involved.

Even "easier" is good thing. Numbers of ports will mostly depend actually from how much Switch is popular and how much actually sells, if Switch become popular it will have bigger number of ports of course than if its sell bad and has low instal base.

 

hunter_alien said:
Miyamotoo said:

Of Course, but fact is that modern Switch hardware and tech makes things easier compared to Wii or Wii U for instance.

That is simply natural. The question is how far behind you have to drag down a game tech wise untill it starts resembling something entirely else. Case in point, Dead Rising was ported to the Wii and it was pure trash. Hopefully the NS will not plagued by quite as a large power difference.

Wii was incomparabile less powerful than PS3/Xbox 360, while Switch will have around half of XB1 power, also Wii was older tech than PS3/Xbox360 (Wii is basically overclocked GC), so definitely not exactly good comparison.

 

vivster said:
Miyamotoo said:

Today ARM architecture is most used CPU architecture on market and almost every developer is familiar with ARM, Nvidia is most used GPU architecture on PC market and most of PS4/XB1 multiplatform games are also availibe for PC.

Wow..... really?

Let me tell you what you just said. You just said that because planes are so common nowadays that almost all car drivers know how to fly a plane. And after that bombshell you claim that Nvidia in Tegra is the same as Nvidia in PCs.

Why can't you just accept that, as many people in this thread have already pointed out, what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality.

It's still gonna be a significant effort to port for Switch and architecture is just the first of three hurdles developers have to overcome.

Yours comparison doesn't make any sense at all because games developers are developing for different architectures and techs all the time and usually they are very familiar with most most common techs and architectures on market, while less than 1% car drivers know to fly the plane.

"Why can't you just accept that, as many people in this thread have already pointed out, what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality"!? So beacuse you and few other people said that "what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality", we all need to agree with you!? :D

Simply fact is that modern Switch hardware and tech makes things easier compared to Wii or Wii U for instance (definitely is more than 10% less difficult than porting for Wii U), but from some reason you have problem with that.

Also why your posts sounds like you are angry, calm down a little..



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Miyamotoo said:
vivster said:

Wow..... really?

Let me tell you what you just said. You just said that because planes are so common nowadays that almost all car drivers know how to fly a plane. And after that bombshell you claim that Nvidia in Tegra is the same as Nvidia in PCs.

Why can't you just accept that, as many people in this thread have already pointed out, what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality.

It's still gonna be a significant effort to port for Switch and architecture is just the first of three hurdles developers have to overcome.

Yours comparison doesn't make any sense at all because games developers are developing for different architectures and techs all the time and usually they are very familiar with most most common techs and architectures on market, while less than 1% car drivers know to fly the plane.

"Why can't you just accept that, as many people in this thread have already pointed out, what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality"!? So beacuse you and few other people said that "what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality", we all need to agree with you!? :D

Simply fact is that modern Switch hardware and tech makes things easier compared to Wii or Wii U for instance (definitely is more than 10% less difficult than porting for Wii U), but from some reason you have problem with that.

Also why your posts sounds like you angry, calm down a little..

If you don't agree with people who know more about the matter than you do, who do you agree with?

I'm just trying to tell you the difference between "easy" and "easier".



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vivster said:
Miyamotoo said:

Yours comparison doesn't make any sense at all because games developers are developing for different architectures and techs all the time and usually they are very familiar with most most common techs and architectures on market, while less than 1% car drivers know to fly the plane.

"Why can't you just accept that, as many people in this thread have already pointed out, what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality"!? So beacuse you and few other people said that "what Huang says here is marketing blubber disconnected from reality", we all need to agree with you!? :D

Simply fact is that modern Switch hardware and tech makes things easier compared to Wii or Wii U for instance (definitely is more than 10% less difficult than porting for Wii U), but from some reason you have problem with that.

Also why your posts sounds like you angry, calm down a little..

If you don't agree with people who know more about the matter than you do, who do you agree with?

I'm just trying to tell you the difference between "easy" and "easier".

Sry but from your posts and comparisons without any sense, nothing really tells that you know more about this matter than me.

No, you trying to tell me that I need to accept what you think.

If you actually read what I wrote, you will see I wrote easier compared to Wii U.



Miyamotoo said:
vivster said:

If you don't agree with people who know more about the matter than you do, who do you agree with?

I'm just trying to tell you the difference between "easy" and "easier".

Sry but from your posts and comparisons without any sense, nothing really tells that you know more about this matter than me.

No, you trying to tell me that I need to accept what you think.

If you actually read what I wrote, you will see I wrote easier compared to Wii U.

There are several posts which explain why this doesn't mean it's easy to do. Stating something comparative is of no use here as it doesn't mean anything *concrete* for porting games. 100 degrees is colder than 1000 degrees but that doesn't mean it's cold as is.



vivster said:

If you don't agree with people who know more about the matter than you do, who do you agree with?

I'm just trying to tell you the difference between "easy" and "easier".

viv, just let it go, it's not worth it. There are people that are optimistic, and then there's Miyamotoo, that's on another level.

Unfortunately for him, reality will come into play, and he won't be able to deny it.



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Memory allocation may end up being the boat anchor that holds back easy ports if the 4GB spec is correct.

"Simple" sounds like an oversimplification, but as long as we're hearing this from the mouths of developers and not Nvidia reps and see the proof firsthand at retail, I don't see a problem with being optimistic. But as we get closer to actual release we'll have a clearer view or reality, which may not meet overblown optimism.



JEMC said:
vivster said:

If you don't agree with people who know more about the matter than you do, who do you agree with?

I'm just trying to tell you the difference between "easy" and "easier".

viv, just let it go, it's not worth it. There are people that are optimistic, and then there's Miyamotoo, that's on another level.

Unfortunately for him, reality will come into play, and he won't be able to deny it.

Wow!? :D

Care to elaborate, for instance in this particular matter, what exalty I wrote that is optimistic, "on another level", has nothing with reality, or that reality will deny me!?



walsufnir said:
Miyamotoo said:

Sry but from your posts and comparisons without any sense, nothing really tells that you know more about this matter than me.

No, you trying to tell me that I need to accept what you think.

If you actually read what I wrote, you will see I wrote easier compared to Wii U.

There are several posts which explain why this doesn't mean it's easy to do. Stating something comparative is of no use here as it doesn't mean anything *concrete* for porting games. 100 degrees is colder than 1000 degrees but that doesn't mean it's cold as is.

Again, I didnt said it will be easy to do (one button and we are done), my point is that will be easier compared to Wii U and thats offcourse positive thing, but from some reason people missunderstood that and try to turn that in something negative..



Miyamotoo said:
JEMC said:

viv, just let it go, it's not worth it. There are people that are optimistic, and then there's Miyamotoo, that's on another level.

Unfortunately for him, reality will come into play, and he won't be able to deny it.

Wow!? :D

Care to elaborate, for instance in this particular matter, what exalty I wrote that is optimistic, "on another level", or has nothing with reality!?

I'm just expressing the feeling I have from reading your posts from the last months (not just since it was revealed) in regards to NX/Switch.

Simply put, you only see the good side of everything and when someone, anyone, tries to put some context in all the PR talk or expresses concerns about the hardware and/or third party support, you're the first that comes in defense of the device, minimizing them all without proof of anything besides "Switch is more modern tech" that, while true, is not enough.

But don't worry, you're still far from johnlucas level.



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Easy port does not mean that they won't have to heavily downgrade them.

Every time a Nintendo system is released we hear that it's "so easy" to develop for etc etc. But after a few years we hear stuffs like "the wii was a nightmare, not enough blah blah" "The WiiU is awful, two screens is too complicated, etc etc"
But well this time I think it might really be "easy". Thanks to Nintendo for stopping with the powerPC nightmare, and going with Nvidia for the GPU, this time we could have a console that really has a chance to win a lot of third party support.

I would never have thought that Nvidia would already come back to consoles, especially with Nintendo. I hope the partnership last and that Nintendo willl create an ecosystem of devices  like the switch.

Shared library of games, full compatiblity of VC titles across all platforms, one unified OS. That would be cool