Including your love for it. So leave that out as well.  

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You honestly think PS4P having issues running AAA games at the highest resolutions is going to be limited to launch? Keep dreaming.

Also, if you think the Pro isn't early, good for you. In my opinion the specs and results we have seen speak for themselves. A more substantial upgrade would have been better. And I doubt we'll be hearing about next gen consoles in 2018 :)

I don't know, maybe go look at some sales charts or something if anything I said bothers you. I own and use all platforms :)

If developers are to blame , and not the hardware....

Naughty Dog has also under delivered with PS4 Pro . Aside The Last of Us , Uncharted 4 drops to 25 fps on the Pro as well, at 1440p (not even at a higher taxing resolution) so we see no improvement on the original in this regard.

The Pro is supposed to stand for a better experience over the OG PS4.

Not even getting a locked 30 fps on a 'premium console' from a top developer is nothing but disappointing, unsure how anyone can disagree here.

While i am disappointed by UC4 running at 1440p, I don't see an issue with the frame-rate. ND have always been open to a degree of frame-rate variability in their games. Drops in UC4 aren't at all common, but in instances where they believe pushing the physics (or at least giving the player the option too) adds to the experience, they're fine with some mild drops. The Pro could be 10tf and ND would likely still maintain that design philosophy. It's fine for someone to disagree with that philosophy, but that's a different point of discussion to the one at hand.

As for why it runs at 1440p, it seems like time was an issue for ND. They were working on 4 different performance profiles at once (1800pC/60fps + 4k/30fps/2xShadows for TLOU, and 1440p/30fps + 1080p/60fps for UC4's SP and MP), and it appears they were originally targeting a higher resolution for UC4's SP too (DF think 1800pC). In general it seems like they tried to get too much done in too little time.

Anyway, i'd personally recommend holding off judgement. While i think people are justified in being disappointed with Sony (i am too; they should be more rigorous in enforcing their performance policy), these issues being hardware related is unlikely. It's simply too linear an upgrade. The biggest issue developers should be facing is coming to terms with the different relative spec balance, which changes where bottlenecks will turn up (that being an experience problem). Even then though, most developers appear to be fine. It's only a minority of Pro titles showing issues, and in most instances the issues are 'small and fleeting' (to paraphrase DF). In most instances Pro versions have been fine, with a few instances of games actually exceeding expectations. CoD:IW being one such title is certainly surprising

Didn't answer my question. If you think the Scorpio is going to launch problem free, you're dreaming. I'm sure you'll be in threads excusing it, though. 

And yes, if we were hearing rumors of the PS4 and XBO in 2012, we're going to be hearing them in 2018 for PS5 and XB2, if there is one. Most likely just a few months after the Scorpio's launch. That's called late to the party, regardless of specs.

I've been looking, but where is this htread that you speak of?

Yeah, I get the impression that overall dudes were pretty impressed with the game.  Yes, there are issues, but overall, again, pretty impressed.  They started out with their overall positive approval of it.  But then, they talked about the specific issues the game had when specifically running the PS4 Pro on a 1080p TV.  That in itself doesn't negate how impressed they were, but more so they're saying it could have been better.  Don't see the issue with the vid, the game, and playing on a PS4 Pro.  But you might have a point with the OP.

There was one at the time I posted that. Not gonna go back through the thread to check how many there are now, but I'll take your word for it

There were a lot of moderations in this thread.  Go figure.

I stopped buying Ubisoft games for this reason. Most of them release with graphics downgrade in comparison to the initial reveal. The Division, Far Cry Primal and now this. I'm really glad they skipped Assassins creed.