| Swordmasterman said: Wow, 2 decades are = 4-5 generations. |
How many of those will get a F-Zero though?
| Swordmasterman said: Wow, 2 decades are = 4-5 generations. |
How many of those will get a F-Zero though?
t3mporary_126 said:
How many of those will get a F-Zero though? |
Depends on how the next one sell I guess. Theres probably a good reason as to why Nintendo hasnt made one in 12 years. They might just not know how to keep the franchise fresh.
bunchanumbers said:
They care because its the most legit customer they have and they took the Tegra chips they couldn't sell. Nintendo jumping on Nvidias mobile chip pretty much just made Nvidia a household name in the mobile space which was near impossible before. |
You make it sound like Nvidia just entered the mobile market with a Nintendo phone , just like most people wouldn't know if asked what gpu helped power 80 million plus PS3's , they would give the same answer if asked what tech was behind the 3DS and WiiU. and it won't change with the switch.
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Well, their relationship with IBM lasted nearly two decades, from the development of the Gamecube in the late 90s to the present.
Of course, if Switch fails, Nintendo probably won't be making hardware in 3 years much less 2 decades. Hopefully it won't come to that.
mjk45 said:
You make it sound like Nvidia just entered the mobile market with a Nintendo phone , just like most people wouldn't know if asked what gpu helped power 80 million plus PS3's , they would give the same answer if asked what tech was behind the 3DS and WiiU. and it won't change with the switch. |
Nvidia has been pushing tegra for gaming for years. They have 2 attempts and no success. Its a niche product and would have always been a niche product if it wasn't for Nintendo pushing it into the mainstream. Its pretty much the 3rd iteration of Nvidia shield and their second tablet, but with a Nintendo logo on it.
Wyrdness said:
Business doesn't work that way mate, an annoucement won't damage the launch in anyway if the is no project behind it especially as Nintendo are the market leaders in the market, not only has Vita lessened Sony presence on the portable scene but the onus would be on Sony to convince consumers of that market as a result. It would end up backfiring because Zelda alone would ensure Switch has a good launch regardless of an announcement meaning that only a long term strategy from Sony can damage Switch and a false announcement isn't that. Only thing that can damage Switch at launch is pricing. |
PS2 reveal did a lot to damage Sega Dreamcast. My point was about a AMD zen architecture portable announcemnt damaging Switch launch numbers but also a repackaged Vita along the lines of Switch as an option that could damage Switch sales purely on the basis that it would be a Vita phone which is more portable. So less powerful home console when docked but more convenient portable device.
You take your phone to work/school etc you get home and place it in the dock and can run all the same apps, games, media with TV output. It's if anything better than Switch in concept. One device for all and streams ps4 content which can be in another room. I think its a good concept. When docked it also charges up the phone for the next day of use and being lower powered one charge lasts all day. Vita games aren't bad. If the Switch concept proves successful its a good parallel concept for Sony to cash in on but with a weaker phone rather than a tablet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7X7QRyiWg

| bonzobanana said: PS2 reveal did a lot to damage Sega Dreamcast. My point was about a AMD zen architecture portable announcemnt damaging Switch launch numbers but also a repackaged Vita along the lines of Switch as an option that could damage Switch sales purely on the basis that it would be a Vita phone which is more portable. So less powerful home console when docked but more convenient portable device. You take your phone to work/school etc you get home and place it in the dock and can run all the same apps, games, media with TV output. It's if anything better than Switch in concept. One device for all and streams ps4 content which can be in another room. I think its a good concept. When docked it also charges up the phone for the next day of use and being lower powered one charge lasts all day. Vita games aren't bad. If the Switch concept proves successful its a good parallel concept for Sony to cash in on but with a weaker phone rather than a tablet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J7X7QRyiWg
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Except what defeats your whole argument is that PS2 was an actual platform that would come out not what you suggested earliar of a made up announcement to cancel later on. AMD have nothing in the portable market that compares to Tegra that's a dead give away right there an announcement like that would only strengthen the Switch, Nvidia right now are really the only ones who offer not only what is in the switch but what can compete with it as a hybrid device.
You don't go to work and School to play Skyrim and so on, this is a common argument that is flawed because those envirionments generally have never favoured any dedicated gaming device, Vita has been long buried by the 3DS so what really makes you think repackaging it will help it fair against the Switch? Sony already have gaming phones and such as well they've all flopped plus they would be in competition with iPhones etc... as well going that route and not only that Sony have struggled to support two devices in the same way Nintendo did only Sony gave up on Vita in the second year, to do what you're saying they'd have to start dividing their resources again.
Finally what's your point on Vita games? Wii U has games as well so? The games on the platforms didn't change the situation at all so saying Vita has games and linking a countdown does nothing to change the fact that as a product it's outmatched to the point Sony left it to die, only thing right now that would damage Switch's launch is pricing because straight up between 3DS and Wii U the are 75m potential customers and it wouldn't be hard for 2m of that userbase to give Switch a good launch especially as early adopters as even Wii U sold 2m in the first few months. Only announcement that dictates how well the launch goes would be the pricing.
Wyrdness said:
Except what defeats your whole argument is that PS2 was an actual platform that would come out not what you suggested earliar of a made up announcement to cancel later on. AMD have nothing in the portable market that compares to Tegra that's a dead give away right there an announcement like that would only strengthen the Switch, Nvidia right now are really the only ones who offer not only what is in the switch but what can compete with it as a hybrid device. You don't go to work and School to play Skyrim and so on, this is a common argument that is flawed because those envirionments generally have never favoured any dedicated gaming device, Vita has been long buried by the 3DS so what really makes you think repackaging it will help it fair against the Switch? Sony already have gaming phones and such as well they've all flopped plus they would be in competition with iPhones etc... as well going that route and not only that Sony have struggled to support two devices in the same way Nintendo did only Sony gave up on Vita in the second year, to do what you're saying they'd have to start dividing their resources again. Finally what's your point on Vita games? Wii U has games as well so? The games on the platforms didn't change the situation at all so saying Vita has games and linking a countdown does nothing to change the fact that as a product it's outmatched to the point Sony left it to die, only thing right now that would damage Switch's launch is pricing because straight up between 3DS and Wii U the are 75m potential customers and it wouldn't be hard for 2m of that userbase to give Switch a good launch especially as early adopters as even Wii U sold 2m in the first few months. Only announcement that dictates how well the launch goes would be the pricing. |
Pretty sure I've read the Zen architecture will be available in low power devices including tablet formats. Its 14mn fabrication process and lets say a 500 gflops radeon gpu and dual thread dual core cpu would be very effective and low power. My point is it could be cancelled once its damaged Nintendo Switch launch but also could be a completely viable new format capable of running ps4 games with less graphic fidelity. It's technology not available to Nintendo because of their launch window but would be realistic later in the year.
The Vita phone would be vita compatible with vita games so it would be a phone with a pretty respectable software library. Switch is a new format without a large existing software library. The Vita phone would also be available I'm sure from many mobile retailers etc. I certainly think there is the potential for it to do good business as part of the Playstation family. Vita performance is now possible with great battery life making it a more effective portable. Many sony portables were just too powerful in the past making them less effective portable gaming systems because battery runtime was too short.
Relatively cheap mobile phone with gaming performance
Docks for charging and basic home console/media system
Good battery life
Faster when docked.
Streams ps4 and ps3 games
Works with ps4 and ps3 controllers
Takes standard micro sd cards
Also takes vita cartridges.

| bonzobanana said: Pretty sure I've read the Zen architecture will be available in low power devices including tablet formats. Its 14mn fabrication process and lets say a 500 gflops radeon gpu and dual thread dual core cpu would be very effective and low power. My point is it could be cancelled once its damaged Nintendo Switch launch but also could be a completely viable new format capable of running ps4 games with less graphic fidelity. It's technology not available to Nintendo because of their launch window but would be realistic later in the year. The Vita phone would be vita compatible with vita games so it would be a phone with a pretty respectable software library. Switch is a new format without a large existing software library. The Vita phone would also be available I'm sure from many mobile retailers etc. I certainly think there is the potential for it to do good business as part of the Playstation family. Vita performance is now possible with great battery life making it a more effective portable. Many sony portables were just too powerful in the past making them less effective portable gaming systems because battery runtime was too short.
Relatively cheap mobile phone with gaming performance Docks for charging and basic home console/media system Good battery life Faster when docked. Streams ps4 and ps3 games Works with ps4 and ps3 controllers Takes standard micro sd cards Also takes vita cartridges. |
Architecture and actual hardware performance aren't the same thing mate, AMD has nothing in the portable sector that could have powered a hybrid like device such as the switch, Nintendo would have had to fund the RnD for them to come up with something. Nvidia on the other hand already had tech that fit the device plus the's business incentive for both companies.
Your argument on the announcement no offence would only ever work in spoof movie? Because you're arguing like such a move has flexibility when it doesn't, business doesn't work that way, for a start no announcment is going to impact the Switch's launch other than pricing, Zelda plus early adoptors will ensure the platform launches wells regardless of anything going on. This means that the only way to damage Switch is in the long run which means Sony would actually have to release a new platform to deal with it, if you really believe Sony would dedicate resources for a false announcement while have things on stand by just in case to do a u-turn you're kidding yourself platforms need actual proper planning no run of the mill "Let's wing it" decisions.
You keep mentioning Vita this and that, mate that ship has sailed before being sank by the 3DS, you may as well argue that releasing a Wii U mini would combat the PS4pro and Scorpio. Repackaging the Vita in any way shape or form is not going to compete with Switch not to mention you ignored what was told to you in the previous reply and Sony and their gaming phones.
its an intriguing partnership. Hopefully, Nvidia will push Nintendo into releasing a variety of products, not limited to Tegra/mobile tech.
